My Response To MIAC ReportBy Chuck BaldwinMarch 24, 2009
This column is archived at http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/c2009/cbarchive_20090324.html
By now, readers should be familiar with the Missouri Information AnalysisCenter (MIAC) report dated 02/20/09 and titled, "MIAC Strategic Report: TheModern Militia Movement."
In this dreadfully malicious and slanderous "lawenforcement sensitive" secret police report, Governor Jeremiah (Jay) Nixon;John Britt, Director of the Missouri Department of Public Safety; JamesKeathley, Colonel, Missouri State Highway Patrol; and Van Godsey, Directorof MIAC categorize certain citizens as being potential violence-prone"militia members."
I would venture to guess that more than 75% of the entirepopulation of the United States would fit the MIAC's broad definition ofsomeone who would fall into the aforementioned category. According to the MIAC report, if you oppose any of the following, you couldqualify for being profiled as a potential dangerous "militia member":
The United Nations
The New World Order
Gun Control
The violation of Posse Comitatus
The Federal Reserve
The Income Tax
The Ammunition and Accountability Act
A possible Constitutional Convention
The North American Union
Universal Service Program
Radio Frequency Identification (RFID)
AbortionI
llegal Immigration
Again, I would bet that at least 75% of the American people would oppose atleast one or more items on the above list. Well, according to the MIACreport, that is sufficient to make them potential dangerous "militiamembers." However, it is the following statement contained in the MIAC report that isparticularly disturbing to yours truly.
Under the heading "PoliticalParaphernalia," the report states, "Militia members most commonly associatewith 3rd party political groups. It is not uncommon for militia members todisplay Constitutional [sic] Party, Campaign for Liberty, or Libertarianmaterial. These members are usually supporters of former PresidentialCandidate [sic]: Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, and Bob Barr."
The obvious inference of the above statement links Ron Paul, Bob Barr, andmyself to potential dangerous "militia members." The broader implication isthat the millions of people who supported Ron Paul, Bob Barr, or myself arelikewise categorized as potential dangerous "militia members."
This is a classic case of broad-brushed police profiling. Can you imagine the falloutof this preposterous report had the names Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, andMaxine Waters been used instead of the names Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, andBob Barr? Accordingly, Ron Paul, Bob Barr, and I wrote a formal letter to theabove-named Missouri officials demanding "that the following-describeddocument be immediately removed from any and all websites associated with ormaintained by the state of Missouri or any agency thereof, including theMIAC; that the said document no longer be circulated by the state ofMissouri or any agency thereof or associated therewith; and that the stateof Missouri repudiate its references to the three of us contained therein."
To view the full text of our letter to Governor Nixon of Missouri, go here: http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/MIAC-Letter.pdf
Ladies and gentlemen, we simply cannot allow this kind of police profilingto continue.
I assure you, this phenomenon is not limited to the State of Missouri.
Every state that has a "Fusion Center" is being fed this kind ofnonsense on a regular basis. You and I are commonly referred to as"extremists" in these secret police reports. This has been happening inearnest for the past couple of months and is operating under the auspices ofthe federal Department of Homeland Security.
And people with a publicplatform (such as myself, Ron Paul, Bob Barr, and a host of others) are nowbeing singled out by name.
How long will it be before police agencies begin"picking up and hauling away" those people whose names are mentioned inthese reports? It may be sooner than we think.
To see if your state has a "Fusion Center," go here: http://www.dhs.gov/xinfoshare/programs/gc_1156877184684.shtm
The only thing that will stymie this nonsense is a huge public outcryopposing it. Yes, the people of this country (that means YOU) still have thepower to put a stop to this kind of totalitarian thinking.
If we do nothing,however, it will soon be too late to stop it. We either stop it now, or itwill quickly mushroom into a leviathan that will both monitor and controlthe personal opinions and speech of every man, woman, and child in this country.
No, I am not exaggerating. The Feds already monitor virtually every phone call, email, and publicspeech in the country. How long before these secret police reports will beused as justification to arrest and incarcerate people because of theirideas and opinions, labeling them as a "threat" or as "dangerous" to society?
Here is the contact information for the appropriate officials in Missouri:
Email address:
Brandon.middleton@mshp.dps.mo.gov
Missouri Information Analysis Center
Division of Drugs & Crime Control
P. O. Box 568Jefferson City, MO 65102-0568
Phone: 573-751-6422Toll Free: 866-362-6422
Fax: 573-751-9950
And while you are at it, you should also contact the state police agency aswell as the governor's office in your state, especially if your state has a"Fusion Center" (see web site above).
Mark it down: if you have everpublicly opposed any of the above-mentioned issues or organizations, or have ever publicly supported an independent Presidential candidate, YOU ARE BEING PROFILED RIGHT NOW!
We await the State of Missouri's response. In the meantime, what are yougoing to do? P.S. Even as this column is being distributed, we have just received a replyfrom the Director of the Missouri Department of Public Safety, John Britt.
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ncn.blogr.com - stories - 2009-03-24-Missouri-Apologizes-Over-MIAC
Mar 24, 2009 ... http://www.infowars.com/missouri-apologizes-to-paul-barr-baldwin-over-miac-report/. The uproar that ensued as a result of our original story ...ncn.blogr.com/stories/2009-03-24-Missouri-Apologizes-Over-MIAC/ -
Missouri Apologizes to Paul, Barr & Baldwin Over MIAC Report
Mar 24, 2009 ... Paul Joseph Watson But “domestic terror” smears against anti-abortion, anti-gun control, bumper sticker political activists will remain.
www.infowars.com/missouri-apologizes-to-paul-barr-baldwin-over-miac-report/
Tuesday, March 24, 2009
Monday, March 23, 2009
Death squad leader ‘was top CIA agent’
(Sunday Herald)
SERBIA: Gabriel Ronay
THE LATE President Milosevic's secret police chief and organiser of Serb death squads during the genocidal ethnic cleansing of disintegrating Yugoslavia was the United States' top CIA agent in Belgrade, according to the independent Belgrade Radio B92.
The claim that from 1992 until the end of the decade, Jovica Stanisic, head of Serbia's murderous DB Secret Police, was regularly informing his CIA handlers of the thinking in Milosevic's inner circle has shocked the region.
Stanisic is said to have loyally served his two masters for eight years. He is facing war crimes charges at the International Criminal Court at The Hague.
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In the terrifying years of Yugoslavia's internecine wars, he acted as the willing "muscle" behind Milosevic's genocidal campaigns in Croatia, Kosovo and Bosnia, including Sebrenica.
According to the charges he faces, Stanisic was "part of a joint criminal enterprise that included former Serbian president Slobodan Milosevic and other Serbian politicians".
Dermot Groome, The Hague's chief prosecutor, has specifically accused him of sending in the Serb Scorpion and Red Beret death squads into the states seeking independence from Belgrade. Stanisic has pleaded not guilty.
Like in a Cold War spy thriller, Serbia's secret police chief met his CIA handlers in safe houses, parks and boats on the river Sava to betray his master's action plans. He provided, it is claimed, information on the whereabouts of Nato hostages, aided CIA operatives in their search for Muslim mass graves and helped the US set up secret bases in Bosnia to monitor the implementation of the 1995 Dayton peace accord.
This has raised awkward questions for Washington. With Stanisic providing chapter and verse of the genocidal slaughter of Croats, Bosnians and Albanians from the early 1990s, should President Clinton have cut a deal with Milosevic at Dayton, Ohio, ending the Bosnian war on such equitable terms for the Serbs? Or, using Stanisic's evidence, should the Americans not have unmasked Milosevic and Radovan Karadzic, the then head of Republika Srpska, as genocidal war criminals and demanded their surrender?
From his prison cell at The Hague, Stanisic countered the charges facing him with an aide memoir portraying himself as "a person who had sought to moderate Milosevic and had done a great deal to moderate the crisis".
In an unusual move, the CIA has submitted classified documents to the court that confirm Stanisic's "undercover operative role in helping to bring peace to the region and aiding the agency's work. He helped defuse some of the most explosive actions of the Bosnian war."
In an interview with the Los Angeles Times, William Lofgren, his original CIA recruiter and handler, now retired, said: "Stanisic provided valuable information from Milosevic's inner circle. But he never took money from the CIA, worked with the agency on operations or took steps that he would have considered a blatant betrayal of his boss."
Thus the judges at The Hague are having to judge a man who allegedly sent the Scorpion death squads to Srebrenica to "deal" with men and boys fleeing the UN-protected Muslim enclave, while working with the CIA trying to end Milosevic's ethnic wars.
The way the CIA apparently viewed their Belgrade "asset" is revealed in an interview with Balkan Insight, a little known south-east European publication.
The emerging picture is a quaint reflection from a hall of mirrors. Greg Miller of the Los Angeles Times, writing about the links between the CIA and the Serb secret police chief, is quoted as saying: "As I said in the LAT story, the CIA do not see Stanisic as a choirboy. When you talk to people who work in espionage, this is often the case.
"Because of the nature of that job, of that assignment, they are working with people who do not have unblemished records, it would be difficult for them to be effective if they only worked with people who had unblemished records.
"People in Belgrade who have been following the career of Jovica Stanisic would say that this was a guy who was an expert in his field; he was a highly-trained and highly-effective spy. His motivation may have been that he wanted to know what the United States was up to.
"He did not believe that Milosevic was taking the country in the right direction - so he wanted to influence events. He saw himself as an important guy who could pull strings behind the scenes to make things happen in Belgrade."
Stanisic apparently did so on his own terms, while trying to remain a loyal Serb. He did not succeed.
Now he is having to account for his actions as Milosevic's loyal lieutenant at The Hague.
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SERBIA: Gabriel Ronay
THE LATE President Milosevic's secret police chief and organiser of Serb death squads during the genocidal ethnic cleansing of disintegrating Yugoslavia was the United States' top CIA agent in Belgrade, according to the independent Belgrade Radio B92.
The claim that from 1992 until the end of the decade, Jovica Stanisic, head of Serbia's murderous DB Secret Police, was regularly informing his CIA handlers of the thinking in Milosevic's inner circle has shocked the region.
Stanisic is said to have loyally served his two masters for eight years. He is facing war crimes charges at the International Criminal Court at The Hague.
advertisement
In the terrifying years of Yugoslavia's internecine wars, he acted as the willing "muscle" behind Milosevic's genocidal campaigns in Croatia, Kosovo and Bosnia, including Sebrenica.
According to the charges he faces, Stanisic was "part of a joint criminal enterprise that included former Serbian president Slobodan Milosevic and other Serbian politicians".
Dermot Groome, The Hague's chief prosecutor, has specifically accused him of sending in the Serb Scorpion and Red Beret death squads into the states seeking independence from Belgrade. Stanisic has pleaded not guilty.
Like in a Cold War spy thriller, Serbia's secret police chief met his CIA handlers in safe houses, parks and boats on the river Sava to betray his master's action plans. He provided, it is claimed, information on the whereabouts of Nato hostages, aided CIA operatives in their search for Muslim mass graves and helped the US set up secret bases in Bosnia to monitor the implementation of the 1995 Dayton peace accord.
This has raised awkward questions for Washington. With Stanisic providing chapter and verse of the genocidal slaughter of Croats, Bosnians and Albanians from the early 1990s, should President Clinton have cut a deal with Milosevic at Dayton, Ohio, ending the Bosnian war on such equitable terms for the Serbs? Or, using Stanisic's evidence, should the Americans not have unmasked Milosevic and Radovan Karadzic, the then head of Republika Srpska, as genocidal war criminals and demanded their surrender?
From his prison cell at The Hague, Stanisic countered the charges facing him with an aide memoir portraying himself as "a person who had sought to moderate Milosevic and had done a great deal to moderate the crisis".
In an unusual move, the CIA has submitted classified documents to the court that confirm Stanisic's "undercover operative role in helping to bring peace to the region and aiding the agency's work. He helped defuse some of the most explosive actions of the Bosnian war."
In an interview with the Los Angeles Times, William Lofgren, his original CIA recruiter and handler, now retired, said: "Stanisic provided valuable information from Milosevic's inner circle. But he never took money from the CIA, worked with the agency on operations or took steps that he would have considered a blatant betrayal of his boss."
Thus the judges at The Hague are having to judge a man who allegedly sent the Scorpion death squads to Srebrenica to "deal" with men and boys fleeing the UN-protected Muslim enclave, while working with the CIA trying to end Milosevic's ethnic wars.
The way the CIA apparently viewed their Belgrade "asset" is revealed in an interview with Balkan Insight, a little known south-east European publication.
The emerging picture is a quaint reflection from a hall of mirrors. Greg Miller of the Los Angeles Times, writing about the links between the CIA and the Serb secret police chief, is quoted as saying: "As I said in the LAT story, the CIA do not see Stanisic as a choirboy. When you talk to people who work in espionage, this is often the case.
"Because of the nature of that job, of that assignment, they are working with people who do not have unblemished records, it would be difficult for them to be effective if they only worked with people who had unblemished records.
"People in Belgrade who have been following the career of Jovica Stanisic would say that this was a guy who was an expert in his field; he was a highly-trained and highly-effective spy. His motivation may have been that he wanted to know what the United States was up to.
"He did not believe that Milosevic was taking the country in the right direction - so he wanted to influence events. He saw himself as an important guy who could pull strings behind the scenes to make things happen in Belgrade."
Stanisic apparently did so on his own terms, while trying to remain a loyal Serb. He did not succeed.
Now he is having to account for his actions as Milosevic's loyal lieutenant at The Hague.
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Tuesday, March 17, 2009
Global Warming: The Most Absurd Fiction
If Evidence for Global Warming Were Conclusive, I Would Waste No Time Supporting It: Therefore, Seeing as how the evidence is NOT forthcoming, and in fact contrary, why are so many people in Extreme vocal opposition AGAINST me?
125,000 years ago, the global temperature was 5 degrees Celsius warmer than it is now. There was still plenty of ice in Greenland. (We know because of ice cores.) Polar bears did not become extinct. Nor did penguins.
In short, the world did not come to an end when the temperatures were 5 degrees warmer than today.According to the global warming alarmists, if we do not act immediately and drastically, we risk a 2 degree Celsius rise in temperature over the next hundred years or so.
This prediction is based on models that virtually everyone admits are inadequate. (These models do not, for instance take cloud cover into account. They also assume that we have an infinitely thick atmosphere. They failed to predict the cooling cycle we are now in. In short, they are totally inadequate to serve as a basis for setting policy.)
However, let us, for the sake of argument, assume that these models are correct & that we will see a 2 degree rise in temperature over the next century or so. If five degrees warmer did not cause a crisis, then certainly two degrees won't. In fact, two degrees warmer would be a great benefit to the earth's populations (human & animal).
New England would have the climate of Virginia. Much of Canada & Siberia would be habitable. Increased temperatures would result in increased rainfall so the Sahara would once more be green.
Let us not run around like panicked children.
Let us think before we act & let us study the situation before we rush off making drastic policy changes.
Let us work on improving these models & when they are accurate enough that they predict the climate a decade or two in advance, then maybe we can trust them to make predictions a century or two in the future.
We have time.
We are not facing doom.
Global Cooling? [1998-2005 data shows cooling trend] Global cooling: the new kid on the block Sun Spot Cycle Prompts Fears of Global Cooling ...http://ideonexus.com/2008/02/13/sun-spot-cycle-prompts-fears-of-global-cooling/
More than 31000 scientists have signed a petition denying that man is responsible for global warming.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/2053842/Scientists-sign-petition-denying-man-made-global-warming.html
Newsmax.com - Scientist: Earth Cooling, Not WarmingApr 24, 2008 ... A San Francisco-based scientist says that current solar activity strongly indicates that the earth is on the verge of a new ice age.http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/global_warming_ice_age/2008/04/24/90591.html
Ice In The Greenhouse: Earth May Be Cooling, Not Warminghttp://www.odu.edu/ao/instadv/quest/Greenhouse.html
Mars Melt Hints at Solar, Not Human, Cause for Warming, Scientist SaysFeb 28, 2007 ... Ice caps are melting on both Earth and Mars. According to one researcher's controversial theory, this suggests that global warming has ...http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html
Global warming on Mars, ice caps meltingNASA says the Martian South Pole's ice cap has been shrinking for three summers ... Jupiter's caught the same cold, because it's warming up too, like Pluto. ...http://www.skepticalscience.com/global-warming-on-mars.htm
Climate myths: Antarctica is getting cooler, not warmer, disproving global warming ...Ice flows are growing thicker, even more ice is being lost from the peripheries. ...http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11648
Nobody listens to the real climate change experts
telegraph.co.uk — Considering how the fear of global warming is inspiring the world's politicians to put forward the most costly and economically damaging package of measures ever imposed on mankind, it is obviously important that we can trust the basis on which all this is being proposed. Last week two international conferences addressed this issue.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/4990704/Nobody-listens-to-the-real-climate-change-experts.html
Expanding Glaciers
Some glaciers are shrinking, but many others are growing. You can't just look at one set of data.http://www.iceagenow.com/Growing_Glaciers.htm
This is the graph of global ice area since 1979
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/global.daily.ice.area.withtrend.jpg
Do you see any trend of global ice mass loss? No, neither does anyone else with a rational mind.
I'm not saying that Global Warming didn't happen, I'm saying it did, but also Global Cooling IS currently occurring, and hell, next, it might be GLOBAL STALING. But the culprit, like always, is the sun. A scientist mag might not admit it, take your pick out of those that do and don't, but the fact is, the results don't lie.
"Did my SUV cause the ice caps on mars to melt, then, when the sunspots on the SUN stop, did my SUV and factories cause the caps to melt back?"
I could go on and on. The fact is, we have no power over the main source of energy in our solar system, and the Earth has carried life for billions of years. I doubt it will stop.
The consensus is that we live in a constantly changing planet that goes from any extreme from a Jurassic heat up to an Ice Age cool down, life goes on. But on our immediate situation, yes, most of our allergies, skin and breathing conditions as well as diseases and cancers are caused by human sources.
Guess who though?
NOT THE PEOPLE.
The Bankers who supply and support the Corporations, you know, the ones with big Freemasonic/Pagan symbology like triangles and all seeing eyes everywhere. That's not a conspiracy is it? I didn't think so.
The conspiracy against mankind is real enough, and what most of you don't know is that the same people who openly oppose what you support, actually give contributions to those same institutions.
Carbon credit/carbon taxes are supported worldwide by politicians from across the board, and you can not deny any longer that carbon dioxide which we expel when we breath and plants inhale, is causing the Earth to go through these weather pattern farts.
http://infowars.com
125,000 years ago, the global temperature was 5 degrees Celsius warmer than it is now. There was still plenty of ice in Greenland. (We know because of ice cores.) Polar bears did not become extinct. Nor did penguins.
In short, the world did not come to an end when the temperatures were 5 degrees warmer than today.According to the global warming alarmists, if we do not act immediately and drastically, we risk a 2 degree Celsius rise in temperature over the next hundred years or so.
This prediction is based on models that virtually everyone admits are inadequate. (These models do not, for instance take cloud cover into account. They also assume that we have an infinitely thick atmosphere. They failed to predict the cooling cycle we are now in. In short, they are totally inadequate to serve as a basis for setting policy.)
However, let us, for the sake of argument, assume that these models are correct & that we will see a 2 degree rise in temperature over the next century or so. If five degrees warmer did not cause a crisis, then certainly two degrees won't. In fact, two degrees warmer would be a great benefit to the earth's populations (human & animal).
New England would have the climate of Virginia. Much of Canada & Siberia would be habitable. Increased temperatures would result in increased rainfall so the Sahara would once more be green.
Let us not run around like panicked children.
Let us think before we act & let us study the situation before we rush off making drastic policy changes.
Let us work on improving these models & when they are accurate enough that they predict the climate a decade or two in advance, then maybe we can trust them to make predictions a century or two in the future.
We have time.
We are not facing doom.
Global Cooling? [1998-2005 data shows cooling trend] Global cooling: the new kid on the block Sun Spot Cycle Prompts Fears of Global Cooling ...http://ideonexus.com/2008/02/13/sun-spot-cycle-prompts-fears-of-global-cooling/
More than 31000 scientists have signed a petition denying that man is responsible for global warming.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/2053842/Scientists-sign-petition-denying-man-made-global-warming.html
Newsmax.com - Scientist: Earth Cooling, Not WarmingApr 24, 2008 ... A San Francisco-based scientist says that current solar activity strongly indicates that the earth is on the verge of a new ice age.http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/global_warming_ice_age/2008/04/24/90591.html
Ice In The Greenhouse: Earth May Be Cooling, Not Warminghttp://www.odu.edu/ao/instadv/quest/Greenhouse.html
Mars Melt Hints at Solar, Not Human, Cause for Warming, Scientist SaysFeb 28, 2007 ... Ice caps are melting on both Earth and Mars. According to one researcher's controversial theory, this suggests that global warming has ...http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html
Global warming on Mars, ice caps meltingNASA says the Martian South Pole's ice cap has been shrinking for three summers ... Jupiter's caught the same cold, because it's warming up too, like Pluto. ...http://www.skepticalscience.com/global-warming-on-mars.htm
Climate myths: Antarctica is getting cooler, not warmer, disproving global warming ...Ice flows are growing thicker, even more ice is being lost from the peripheries. ...http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11648
Nobody listens to the real climate change experts
telegraph.co.uk — Considering how the fear of global warming is inspiring the world's politicians to put forward the most costly and economically damaging package of measures ever imposed on mankind, it is obviously important that we can trust the basis on which all this is being proposed. Last week two international conferences addressed this issue.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/4990704/Nobody-listens-to-the-real-climate-change-experts.html
Expanding Glaciers
Some glaciers are shrinking, but many others are growing. You can't just look at one set of data.http://www.iceagenow.com/Growing_Glaciers.htm
This is the graph of global ice area since 1979
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/global.daily.ice.area.withtrend.jpg
Do you see any trend of global ice mass loss? No, neither does anyone else with a rational mind.
I'm not saying that Global Warming didn't happen, I'm saying it did, but also Global Cooling IS currently occurring, and hell, next, it might be GLOBAL STALING. But the culprit, like always, is the sun. A scientist mag might not admit it, take your pick out of those that do and don't, but the fact is, the results don't lie.
"Did my SUV cause the ice caps on mars to melt, then, when the sunspots on the SUN stop, did my SUV and factories cause the caps to melt back?"
I could go on and on. The fact is, we have no power over the main source of energy in our solar system, and the Earth has carried life for billions of years. I doubt it will stop.
The consensus is that we live in a constantly changing planet that goes from any extreme from a Jurassic heat up to an Ice Age cool down, life goes on. But on our immediate situation, yes, most of our allergies, skin and breathing conditions as well as diseases and cancers are caused by human sources.
Guess who though?
NOT THE PEOPLE.
The Bankers who supply and support the Corporations, you know, the ones with big Freemasonic/Pagan symbology like triangles and all seeing eyes everywhere. That's not a conspiracy is it? I didn't think so.
The conspiracy against mankind is real enough, and what most of you don't know is that the same people who openly oppose what you support, actually give contributions to those same institutions.
Carbon credit/carbon taxes are supported worldwide by politicians from across the board, and you can not deny any longer that carbon dioxide which we expel when we breath and plants inhale, is causing the Earth to go through these weather pattern farts.
http://infowars.com
Monday, March 16, 2009
Super Myths
In todays society, myths, conspiracy theories, and propoganda combine to produce our culture of ignorance. We have no idea what is true, except what we FEEL inside of ourselves, because there is simply so much CRAP that fills our senses in everyday news that we stop listening, except to the most passionate. Unfortunately, the most passionate turn out to be the most wrong (that, or scam artists - See: Miss Cleo).
What really got my attention was the global warming issue. It swept over America a few years ago when Al Gore took to his little electronic manlift with ruler in hand and showed us how we were all going to die if we didn't start throwing ice cubes in the ocean and paying a global authority carbon taxes... Or something like that.
Well, it turned out he was wrong when he was sued by dozens of scientists and had his reputation tarnished as 650 international scientists stood up against the claim that the Earth's warming was caused by humans, let alone that the Earth was warming at all.
In fact, in 2008, it came out that the Earth was COOLING, and who turned out the be the culprit? The Sun! Of course. *slaps head* Silly humans. Always taking responsibility for supposed calamities. Well, when you feel like the global financial crisis is your fault, feel free to immediately begin directing funds into my account. But while we wait for you to get a conscience, I'll allow you to wallow in thought from this list i've compiled exposing the biggest "Catastrophe's & Problems Facing man" which are in fact, myths.
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Scientist: Warming Could Cut Population to 1 Billion
dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com — Hans Joachim Schellnhuber, the director of the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research in Germany, said that if the buildup of greenhouse gases and its consequences pushed global temperatures 9 degrees Fahrenheit higher than today — well below the upper temperature range that scientists project could occur from global warming.
ORLY?!!??
From Digg:
alanocu
The correct solution to "global warming" is to have the courage to do nothing.Global warmists are like misguided cultists eager to swallow the religion of environmentalism. Jonestown, here we come. Except on digg, we scoff at religion because it's "stupid" and pat ourselves on the back for being so "much more intelligent."
And obviously, our inconsistencies with respect to who is spreading the gospel proves our intelligence to be in tact and our criticism to be fair, as any beliefs not shared with our own are repressed, belittled, buried down (like this comment will be), attacked and deemed as "hate" speech.
I’ve yet to see environmental agencies like 'Go Green or Rot in Hell' consistently badger the government to do something substantial about alternative energies. It’s easier for them to jump on the global warming bandwagon and send copies of An Inconvenient Truth to schools. And seconds later, a deacon appointed by Al Gore is on the home page of Digg for his courage to scare the hell out of kindergartners by telling them we’re killing polar bears and butterflies.And seriously, the sound of bullshit detectors going off is not a strategy.
You can't say you're for the "little guy" when you side with activist judges over the will of the people and put the demands of tree-hugging eco-wackos ahead of working Americans.Do you identify better with Ben Affleck or JoeSixpack? Who is the "common man" and why are we always telling him what he's doing wrong?
Reply to alanocu :
gjokkel
climate change then the pollution
- If we stopped pollution then the lack of drinking water
- If we solved the problem of drinking water then the lack of fossil energy
- If we managed to switch to renewable energy then deforestation
- If we stopped deforestation then overpopulation... etc.
With my most positive attitude I must say that we won't be able to solve every one of these. We are simply too many.If we accept this, then the only question remains:
HOW can the human population be decreased to 20% of its current size in the next 50 years? wow...
Frnnkdlxx
You know, you bring up quite an interesting conundrum and conspiracy. All those issues you brought up that the Super reactionaries back have been proven incorrect:
- If not the climate change then the pollution (we found out that the earth was cooling, not warming - New Scientist http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11648 - So they had to move on pollution which Penn from PEnn and teller fame easily exposed as a scam by the corporations for the green revolution which they exploit to no end, when all the trash on the planet could fit into a nice sized city intexas and never bother anyone)
- If we stopped pollution then the lack of drinking water (as if the corporations and organizations who recognize that drinking water supplies are dwindling only because the military and big biz have been contaminating it on purpose! remember when the military dumped millions of tons of vx into the ocean? http://feww.wordpress.com/2008/11/21/oceans-where- ... - as if they've never heard of desalinization plants)- If we solved the problem of drinking water then the lack of fossil energy (and don't get me started on the scam of calling oil a fossil fuel, when it's not from fossils and not rare. In fact, it's an abiotic material, created sort of like magma and many texans will tell you how reserves that they thought had been deplenished strangely come back online after a few years: http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/Theory/Sustain ... - and don't forget that in prudhoe bay alaska, lindsey williams explained how they tapped it off and restrict mining their because there' are 3x's the amount of reserves there as in all of saudi arabia!)
- If we managed to switch to renewable energy then deforestation (deforestation, ahh. we all care about it, and if only they told you of how after they devestate an area, the trees GROW BACK....and guess what, TWICE THE THICKNESS. it becomes an environmental nightmare because they are too close to eachother and too thick because of the stumps http://www.umich.edu/~mrev/archives/1997/10-8-97/e ... )
- If we stopped deforestation then overpopulation... etc. (let's not get on overpopulation... ok, then let's. lol. Fact is, all of humanities 7 billion could fit into Texas and have a plot of about 100 acres and a mansion . Earth is friggin huge. Humans are friggin tiny. Sort of like we see the son as huge, but all those tiny dots you see in the night sky are usually much larger than ours. Also, we know that the global elite seek to reduce human population by about 80%, that's from henry kissingers evil self! http://www.schillerinstitute.org/food_for_peace/ki ... )
http://infowars.com
What really got my attention was the global warming issue. It swept over America a few years ago when Al Gore took to his little electronic manlift with ruler in hand and showed us how we were all going to die if we didn't start throwing ice cubes in the ocean and paying a global authority carbon taxes... Or something like that.
Well, it turned out he was wrong when he was sued by dozens of scientists and had his reputation tarnished as 650 international scientists stood up against the claim that the Earth's warming was caused by humans, let alone that the Earth was warming at all.
In fact, in 2008, it came out that the Earth was COOLING, and who turned out the be the culprit? The Sun! Of course. *slaps head* Silly humans. Always taking responsibility for supposed calamities. Well, when you feel like the global financial crisis is your fault, feel free to immediately begin directing funds into my account. But while we wait for you to get a conscience, I'll allow you to wallow in thought from this list i've compiled exposing the biggest "Catastrophe's & Problems Facing man" which are in fact, myths.
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Scientist: Warming Could Cut Population to 1 Billion
dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com — Hans Joachim Schellnhuber, the director of the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research in Germany, said that if the buildup of greenhouse gases and its consequences pushed global temperatures 9 degrees Fahrenheit higher than today — well below the upper temperature range that scientists project could occur from global warming.
ORLY?!!??
From Digg:
alanocu
The correct solution to "global warming" is to have the courage to do nothing.Global warmists are like misguided cultists eager to swallow the religion of environmentalism. Jonestown, here we come. Except on digg, we scoff at religion because it's "stupid" and pat ourselves on the back for being so "much more intelligent."
And obviously, our inconsistencies with respect to who is spreading the gospel proves our intelligence to be in tact and our criticism to be fair, as any beliefs not shared with our own are repressed, belittled, buried down (like this comment will be), attacked and deemed as "hate" speech.
I’ve yet to see environmental agencies like 'Go Green or Rot in Hell' consistently badger the government to do something substantial about alternative energies. It’s easier for them to jump on the global warming bandwagon and send copies of An Inconvenient Truth to schools. And seconds later, a deacon appointed by Al Gore is on the home page of Digg for his courage to scare the hell out of kindergartners by telling them we’re killing polar bears and butterflies.And seriously, the sound of bullshit detectors going off is not a strategy.
You can't say you're for the "little guy" when you side with activist judges over the will of the people and put the demands of tree-hugging eco-wackos ahead of working Americans.Do you identify better with Ben Affleck or JoeSixpack? Who is the "common man" and why are we always telling him what he's doing wrong?
Reply to alanocu :
gjokkel
climate change then the pollution
- If we stopped pollution then the lack of drinking water
- If we solved the problem of drinking water then the lack of fossil energy
- If we managed to switch to renewable energy then deforestation
- If we stopped deforestation then overpopulation... etc.
With my most positive attitude I must say that we won't be able to solve every one of these. We are simply too many.If we accept this, then the only question remains:
HOW can the human population be decreased to 20% of its current size in the next 50 years? wow...
Frnnkdlxx
You know, you bring up quite an interesting conundrum and conspiracy. All those issues you brought up that the Super reactionaries back have been proven incorrect:
- If not the climate change then the pollution (we found out that the earth was cooling, not warming - New Scientist http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11648 - So they had to move on pollution which Penn from PEnn and teller fame easily exposed as a scam by the corporations for the green revolution which they exploit to no end, when all the trash on the planet could fit into a nice sized city intexas and never bother anyone)
- If we stopped pollution then the lack of drinking water (as if the corporations and organizations who recognize that drinking water supplies are dwindling only because the military and big biz have been contaminating it on purpose! remember when the military dumped millions of tons of vx into the ocean? http://feww.wordpress.com/2008/11/21/oceans-where- ... - as if they've never heard of desalinization plants)- If we solved the problem of drinking water then the lack of fossil energy (and don't get me started on the scam of calling oil a fossil fuel, when it's not from fossils and not rare. In fact, it's an abiotic material, created sort of like magma and many texans will tell you how reserves that they thought had been deplenished strangely come back online after a few years: http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/Theory/Sustain ... - and don't forget that in prudhoe bay alaska, lindsey williams explained how they tapped it off and restrict mining their because there' are 3x's the amount of reserves there as in all of saudi arabia!)
- If we managed to switch to renewable energy then deforestation (deforestation, ahh. we all care about it, and if only they told you of how after they devestate an area, the trees GROW BACK....and guess what, TWICE THE THICKNESS. it becomes an environmental nightmare because they are too close to eachother and too thick because of the stumps http://www.umich.edu/~mrev/archives/1997/10-8-97/e ... )
- If we stopped deforestation then overpopulation... etc. (let's not get on overpopulation... ok, then let's. lol. Fact is, all of humanities 7 billion could fit into Texas and have a plot of about 100 acres and a mansion . Earth is friggin huge. Humans are friggin tiny. Sort of like we see the son as huge, but all those tiny dots you see in the night sky are usually much larger than ours. Also, we know that the global elite seek to reduce human population by about 80%, that's from henry kissingers evil self! http://www.schillerinstitute.org/food_for_peace/ki ... )
http://infowars.com
Sunday, December 21, 2008
Patton, Jews, & NWO, OH MY!
**Let's start it off right here by stating I am not racist or hold anything against Jews or anyone for that matter. I am black and I know how ignorant it is for anyone to falsely persecute someone based on their heritage, skin color, or crimes of their fathers or countrymen. All I seek to do here is expose the truth. That's all I care about.
A synapse of this piece is that we find out that General Patton was actually assassinated by what we could call the CIA, and that we unearth in the process the fact that all the forces supposedly working against eachother were actually working in tandem with one another. Hitler, Roosevelt, Stalin, Eisenhower, Churchill, the majority of bankers involved, the Bushes, they are all Jewish, and all worked together in one way or another.
Examples: Bushes, Rockefellers, Morgans, other U.S bankers gave funds, expertise, training to Hitler, who was born of Jewish parents in the house of the Rothschilds, better known as kings of the Bankers, Eisenhower and many of the same banking apparatus in the U.S. transferred untold wealth accrued from the Great Deppression to Germany and Russia, and Eisenhower worked with Stalin to massacre many innocent souls, Jewish, German and otherwise, while at the same time, many in U.S. supported vigorously the Germans, Hitler in particular(Margaret Sanger, other Eugenecists). This just gets TOOO weird, and i'm the one who dug deeper than most, it seems.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/3869117/General-George-S.-Patton-was-assassinated-to-silence-his-criticism-of-allied-war-leaders-claims-new-book.html
General George S. Patton was assassinated to silence his criticism of allied war leaders claims new book
George S. Patton, America's greatest combat general of the Second World War, was assassinated after the conflict with the connivance of US leaders, according to a new book.
'We've got a terrible situation with this great patriot, he's out of control and we must save him from himself'. The OSS head General did not trust Patton
The newly unearthed diaries of a colourful assassin for the wartime Office of Strategic Services (OSS), the forerunner of the CIA, reveal that American spy chiefs wanted Patton dead because he was threatening to expose allied collusion with the Russians that cost American lives.
The death of General Patton in December 1945, is one of the enduring mysteries of the war era. Although he had suffered serious injuries in a car crash in Manheim, he was thought to be recovering and was on the verge of flying home.
But after a decade-long investigation, military historian Robert Wilcox claims that OSS head General "Wild Bill" Donovan ordered a highly decorated marksman called Douglas Bazata to silence Patton, who gloried in the nickname "Old Blood and Guts".
His book, "Target Patton", contains interviews with Mr Bazata, who died in 1999, and extracts from his diaries, detailing how he staged the car crash by getting a troop truck to plough into Patton's Cadillac and then shot the general with a low-velocity projectile, which broke his neck while his fellow passengers escaped without a scratch.
Mr Bazata also suggested that when Patton began to recover from his injuries, US officials turned a blind eye as agents of the NKVD, the forerunner of the KGB, poisoned the general.
Mr Wilcox told The Sunday Telegraph that when he spoke to Mr Bazata: "He was struggling with himself, all these killings he had done. He confessed to me that he had caused the accident, that he was ordered to do so by Wild Bill Donovan.
"Donovan told him: 'We've got a terrible situation with this great patriot, he's out of control and we must save him from himself and from ruining everything the allies have done.' I believe Douglas Bazata. He's a sterling guy."
Mr Bazata led an extraordinary life. He was a member of the Jedburghs, the elite unit who parachuted into France to help organise the Resistance in the run up to D-Day in 1944. He earned four purple hearts, a Distinguished Service Cross and the French Croix de Guerre three times over for his efforts.
After the war he became a celebrated artist who enjoyed the patronage of Princess Grace of Monaco and the Duke and Duchess of Windsor.
He was friends with Salvador Dali, who painted a portrait of Bazata as Don Quixote.
He ended his career as an aide to President Ronald Reagan's Navy Secretary John Lehman, a member of the 9/11 Commission and adviser to John McCain's presidential campaign.
Mr Wilcox also tracked down and interviewed Stephen Skubik, an officer in the Counter-Intelligence Corps of the US Army, who said he learnt that Patton was on Stalin's death list. Skubik repeatedly alerted Donovan, who simply had him sent back to the US.
"You have two strong witnesses here," Mr Wilcox said. "The evidence is that the Russians finished the job."
The scenario sounds far fetched but Mr Wilcox has assembled a compelling case that US officials had something to hide. At least five documents relating to the car accident have been removed from US archives.
The driver of the truck was whisked away to London before he could be questioned and no autopsy was performed on Patton's body.
With the help of a Cadillac expert from Detroit, Mr Wilcox has proved that the car on display in the Patton museum at Fort Knox is not the one Patton was driving.
"That is a cover-up," Mr Wilcox said.
George Patton, a dynamic controversialist who wore pearl handled revolvers on each hip and was the subject of an Oscar winning film starring George C. Scott, commanded the US 3rd Army, which cut a swathe through France after D-Day.
But his ambition to get to Berlin before Soviet forces was thwarted by supreme allied commander Dwight D. Eisenhower, who gave Patton's petrol supplies to the more cautious British General Bernard Montgomery.
Patton, who distrusted the Russians, believed Eisenhower wrongly prevented him closing the so-called Falaise Gap in the autumn of 1944, allowing hundreds of thousands of German troops to escape to fight again,. This led to the deaths of thousands of Americans during their winter counter-offensive that became known as the Battle of the Bulge.
In order to placate Stalin, the 3rd Army was also ordered to a halt as it reached the German border and was prevented from seizing either Berlin or Prague, moves that could have prevented Soviet domination of Eastern Europe after the war.
Mr Wilcox told The Sunday Telegraph: "Patton was going to resign from the Army. He wanted to go to war with the Russians. The administration thought he was nuts.
"He also knew secrets of the war which would have ruined careers.
I don't think Dwight Eisenhower would ever have been elected president if Patton had lived to say the things he wanted to say." Mr Wilcox added: "I think there's enough evidence here that if I were to go to a grand jury I could probably get an indictment, but perhaps not a conviction."
Charles Province, President of the George S. Patton Historical Society, said he hopes the book will lead to definitive proof of the plot being uncovered. He said: "There were a lot of people who were pretty damn glad that Patton died. He was going to really open the door on a lot of things that they screwed up over there."
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As a major military history buff and lover of Patton, despite his misgivings(Bonus Army Fiasco), I think I speak for all when I say... WHOAAA.....
Umm... After a quick review, I found an obvious discrepency. It says in the article that Mr. Bazata died in 1999, yet it also says he served on the 9/11 commission and worked on John McCain's presidential campaign. Impossible. They didn't seem to be talking of Robert K. Wilcox, the historian who dug this up, and if speaking on Bazata, it's obvious that a discrepency this big draws criticism on the entire piece.
Wooow. check this out:"George Patton, a dynamic controversialist who wore pearl handled revolvers on each hip and was the subject of an Oscar winning film starring George C. Scott, commanded the US 3rd Army, which cut a swathe through France after D-Day.But his ambition to get to Berlin before Soviet forces was thwarted by supreme allied commander Dwight D. Eisenhower, who gave Patton's petrol supplies to the more cautious British General Bernard Montgomery.Patton, who distrusted the Russians, believed Eisenhower wrongly prevented him closing the so-called Falaise Gap in the autumn of 1944, allowing hundreds of thousands of German troops to escape to fight again,. This led to the deaths of thousands of Americans during their winter counter-offensive that became known as the Battle of the Bulge.In order to placate Stalin, the 3rd Army was also ordered to a halt as it reached the German border and was prevented from seizing either Berlin or Prague, moves that could have prevented Soviet domination of Eastern Europe after the war.Mr Wilcox told The Sunday Telegraph: "Patton was going to resign from the Army. He wanted to go to war with the Russians. The administration thought he was nuts."He also knew secrets of the war which would have ruined careers.I don't think Dwight Eisenhower would ever have been elected president if Patton had lived to say the things he wanted to say." Mr Wilcox added: "I think there's enough evidence here that if I were to go to a grand jury I could probably get an indictment, but perhaps not a conviction." "This reiterates Antony Suttons claims that forces behind the scenes were interested in creating a false atmosphere where as the American and Russian Juggernaughts would "appear" to be at odds with one another - when in reality, they both represented the establishment. Sutton claims that from start(Lenin's Russian Revolution) to finish(Stalin's purges and seizure of atomic bomb to collapse of Soviet Union), the U.S built and supplied Russia.
It gets better. Most of these people are related through bloodlines or are Khazarian, which is considered by some, codeword for a nationality you get called racist for pointing out.
Let's just say Stalin, Eisenhower, Churchill, and Roosevelt were the same.
"Eisenhower was responsible for " Operation Keelhaul " - where allied forces rounded over two million anti-Communists who escaped Stalin and tuned them over to Russian forces. Part of the Yalta Agreement between the Big Three — Stalin, Roosevelt, and Churchill — involved the repatriation of Russians to their respective homelands where they were either immediately executed or sent to die in the Gulag"
Wow. You start to see where I"m going from here. Check this out:
Churchill-Jacobson, Roosevelt-Rosenfelt, Stalin-Djugashvili, Eisenhower-Eisenhaur - They admit their lineages here:
http://judicial-inc.biz/Bush_Mossad11.htm
MESHUGENUH!
A synapse of this piece is that we find out that General Patton was actually assassinated by what we could call the CIA, and that we unearth in the process the fact that all the forces supposedly working against eachother were actually working in tandem with one another. Hitler, Roosevelt, Stalin, Eisenhower, Churchill, the majority of bankers involved, the Bushes, they are all Jewish, and all worked together in one way or another.
Examples: Bushes, Rockefellers, Morgans, other U.S bankers gave funds, expertise, training to Hitler, who was born of Jewish parents in the house of the Rothschilds, better known as kings of the Bankers, Eisenhower and many of the same banking apparatus in the U.S. transferred untold wealth accrued from the Great Deppression to Germany and Russia, and Eisenhower worked with Stalin to massacre many innocent souls, Jewish, German and otherwise, while at the same time, many in U.S. supported vigorously the Germans, Hitler in particular(Margaret Sanger, other Eugenecists). This just gets TOOO weird, and i'm the one who dug deeper than most, it seems.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/3869117/General-George-S.-Patton-was-assassinated-to-silence-his-criticism-of-allied-war-leaders-claims-new-book.html
General George S. Patton was assassinated to silence his criticism of allied war leaders claims new book
George S. Patton, America's greatest combat general of the Second World War, was assassinated after the conflict with the connivance of US leaders, according to a new book.
'We've got a terrible situation with this great patriot, he's out of control and we must save him from himself'. The OSS head General did not trust Patton
The newly unearthed diaries of a colourful assassin for the wartime Office of Strategic Services (OSS), the forerunner of the CIA, reveal that American spy chiefs wanted Patton dead because he was threatening to expose allied collusion with the Russians that cost American lives.
The death of General Patton in December 1945, is one of the enduring mysteries of the war era. Although he had suffered serious injuries in a car crash in Manheim, he was thought to be recovering and was on the verge of flying home.
But after a decade-long investigation, military historian Robert Wilcox claims that OSS head General "Wild Bill" Donovan ordered a highly decorated marksman called Douglas Bazata to silence Patton, who gloried in the nickname "Old Blood and Guts".
His book, "Target Patton", contains interviews with Mr Bazata, who died in 1999, and extracts from his diaries, detailing how he staged the car crash by getting a troop truck to plough into Patton's Cadillac and then shot the general with a low-velocity projectile, which broke his neck while his fellow passengers escaped without a scratch.
Mr Bazata also suggested that when Patton began to recover from his injuries, US officials turned a blind eye as agents of the NKVD, the forerunner of the KGB, poisoned the general.
Mr Wilcox told The Sunday Telegraph that when he spoke to Mr Bazata: "He was struggling with himself, all these killings he had done. He confessed to me that he had caused the accident, that he was ordered to do so by Wild Bill Donovan.
"Donovan told him: 'We've got a terrible situation with this great patriot, he's out of control and we must save him from himself and from ruining everything the allies have done.' I believe Douglas Bazata. He's a sterling guy."
Mr Bazata led an extraordinary life. He was a member of the Jedburghs, the elite unit who parachuted into France to help organise the Resistance in the run up to D-Day in 1944. He earned four purple hearts, a Distinguished Service Cross and the French Croix de Guerre three times over for his efforts.
After the war he became a celebrated artist who enjoyed the patronage of Princess Grace of Monaco and the Duke and Duchess of Windsor.
He was friends with Salvador Dali, who painted a portrait of Bazata as Don Quixote.
He ended his career as an aide to President Ronald Reagan's Navy Secretary John Lehman, a member of the 9/11 Commission and adviser to John McCain's presidential campaign.
Mr Wilcox also tracked down and interviewed Stephen Skubik, an officer in the Counter-Intelligence Corps of the US Army, who said he learnt that Patton was on Stalin's death list. Skubik repeatedly alerted Donovan, who simply had him sent back to the US.
"You have two strong witnesses here," Mr Wilcox said. "The evidence is that the Russians finished the job."
The scenario sounds far fetched but Mr Wilcox has assembled a compelling case that US officials had something to hide. At least five documents relating to the car accident have been removed from US archives.
The driver of the truck was whisked away to London before he could be questioned and no autopsy was performed on Patton's body.
With the help of a Cadillac expert from Detroit, Mr Wilcox has proved that the car on display in the Patton museum at Fort Knox is not the one Patton was driving.
"That is a cover-up," Mr Wilcox said.
George Patton, a dynamic controversialist who wore pearl handled revolvers on each hip and was the subject of an Oscar winning film starring George C. Scott, commanded the US 3rd Army, which cut a swathe through France after D-Day.
But his ambition to get to Berlin before Soviet forces was thwarted by supreme allied commander Dwight D. Eisenhower, who gave Patton's petrol supplies to the more cautious British General Bernard Montgomery.
Patton, who distrusted the Russians, believed Eisenhower wrongly prevented him closing the so-called Falaise Gap in the autumn of 1944, allowing hundreds of thousands of German troops to escape to fight again,. This led to the deaths of thousands of Americans during their winter counter-offensive that became known as the Battle of the Bulge.
In order to placate Stalin, the 3rd Army was also ordered to a halt as it reached the German border and was prevented from seizing either Berlin or Prague, moves that could have prevented Soviet domination of Eastern Europe after the war.
Mr Wilcox told The Sunday Telegraph: "Patton was going to resign from the Army. He wanted to go to war with the Russians. The administration thought he was nuts.
"He also knew secrets of the war which would have ruined careers.
I don't think Dwight Eisenhower would ever have been elected president if Patton had lived to say the things he wanted to say." Mr Wilcox added: "I think there's enough evidence here that if I were to go to a grand jury I could probably get an indictment, but perhaps not a conviction."
Charles Province, President of the George S. Patton Historical Society, said he hopes the book will lead to definitive proof of the plot being uncovered. He said: "There were a lot of people who were pretty damn glad that Patton died. He was going to really open the door on a lot of things that they screwed up over there."
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As a major military history buff and lover of Patton, despite his misgivings(Bonus Army Fiasco), I think I speak for all when I say... WHOAAA.....
Umm... After a quick review, I found an obvious discrepency. It says in the article that Mr. Bazata died in 1999, yet it also says he served on the 9/11 commission and worked on John McCain's presidential campaign. Impossible. They didn't seem to be talking of Robert K. Wilcox, the historian who dug this up, and if speaking on Bazata, it's obvious that a discrepency this big draws criticism on the entire piece.
Wooow. check this out:"George Patton, a dynamic controversialist who wore pearl handled revolvers on each hip and was the subject of an Oscar winning film starring George C. Scott, commanded the US 3rd Army, which cut a swathe through France after D-Day.But his ambition to get to Berlin before Soviet forces was thwarted by supreme allied commander Dwight D. Eisenhower, who gave Patton's petrol supplies to the more cautious British General Bernard Montgomery.Patton, who distrusted the Russians, believed Eisenhower wrongly prevented him closing the so-called Falaise Gap in the autumn of 1944, allowing hundreds of thousands of German troops to escape to fight again,. This led to the deaths of thousands of Americans during their winter counter-offensive that became known as the Battle of the Bulge.In order to placate Stalin, the 3rd Army was also ordered to a halt as it reached the German border and was prevented from seizing either Berlin or Prague, moves that could have prevented Soviet domination of Eastern Europe after the war.Mr Wilcox told The Sunday Telegraph: "Patton was going to resign from the Army. He wanted to go to war with the Russians. The administration thought he was nuts."He also knew secrets of the war which would have ruined careers.I don't think Dwight Eisenhower would ever have been elected president if Patton had lived to say the things he wanted to say." Mr Wilcox added: "I think there's enough evidence here that if I were to go to a grand jury I could probably get an indictment, but perhaps not a conviction." "This reiterates Antony Suttons claims that forces behind the scenes were interested in creating a false atmosphere where as the American and Russian Juggernaughts would "appear" to be at odds with one another - when in reality, they both represented the establishment. Sutton claims that from start(Lenin's Russian Revolution) to finish(Stalin's purges and seizure of atomic bomb to collapse of Soviet Union), the U.S built and supplied Russia.
It gets better. Most of these people are related through bloodlines or are Khazarian, which is considered by some, codeword for a nationality you get called racist for pointing out.
Let's just say Stalin, Eisenhower, Churchill, and Roosevelt were the same.
"Eisenhower was responsible for " Operation Keelhaul " - where allied forces rounded over two million anti-Communists who escaped Stalin and tuned them over to Russian forces. Part of the Yalta Agreement between the Big Three — Stalin, Roosevelt, and Churchill — involved the repatriation of Russians to their respective homelands where they were either immediately executed or sent to die in the Gulag"
Wow. You start to see where I"m going from here. Check this out:
Churchill-Jacobson, Roosevelt-Rosenfelt, Stalin-Djugashvili, Eisenhower-Eisenhaur - They admit their lineages here:
http://judicial-inc.biz/Bush_Mossad11.htm
MESHUGENUH!
Wednesday, December 10, 2008
incomplete trasnscript of hamid guls interviews. cnn and alex jones
interview on cnn 12/7/08
ZAKARIA: General Gul, you know that the United States has given four names to the United Nations of ISI officers whom it would like to place on an international terrorist list. You are one of those four names.What's your reaction to that.GEN. HAMID GUL, FORMER PAKISTANI INTELLIGENCE CHIEF (via broadband): I think this is a frame-up, a total frame-up. I have - I have my own (ph) voice. And I raise. I have a position which I express freely, openly. I'm like an open book.This is preposterous. This is wrong. This is fallacious. And if my government does not ...ZAKARIA: What are the charges against you?GUL: ... XX me, they ...ZAKARIA: What are the charges against you?GUL: Their charges are that I am helping the Taliban and al Qaeda. And what - this is so generalized. And particularly, there is the mention of Sarajo Din Nohani (ph), whom I have never seen in my life. I don't know who he is. I knew his father, Jalal ud-Din Nohani (ph), way back when I was D.G. ISI. But that's been a long time ago.I have nothing to do - I have no means to help them. But, of course, my position is that Americans have aggressed in Afghanistan. And whoever is resisting, the resistance there is justifiable.So, that is my position. I will maintain that position. If that becomes the basis of dubbing me as terrorist, then I would say, it's all right.But other than that, to say that I'm practically involved in any kind of help - absolutely wrong. I am not that at all. ZAKARIA: General Gul, when you read about these attacks in Mumbai, and you see - when you read about the attacks in Mumbai, this is a three-stage, amphibious assault in which the boats were commandeered, the captain and crew then killed.They maintained radio silence. They split up into pairs. They know their locations. They make a few false targets to draw the first responders there.This seems like a military operation.Isn't it likely that there was some special forces or intelligence assistance given to these attackers?GUL: Indeed. I think that this was a very sophisticated operation. There is no doubt about it. It has rocked the - and I have all my sympathies for India - they rock this huge country for 72 hours. And they really don't know how to react and respond to this.But when you look at the full spectrum of possibilities, who could have done it, then one knows that Samjhauta Express was a similar case, in which Pakistan ISI was accused. But it turned out that it was the militant Hindus themselves who had killed 68 passengers in that train, and that it was an inside job.Now Colonel Srikant Purohit, who is a serving army officer, he has been caught in this particular case. And the whole thing has turned around.So, obviously, there is an inside job.ZAKARIA: If it turns out, as the one surviving terrorist says, that these people were trained in Pakistan in four separate locations, do you think it would be retired ISI people? Who would be training these groups?GUL: Not necessarily. It is a question of motivation only. If somebody is motivated, then it is - because what kind of weapons did they use? That's very important. They used flashing (ph) calls (ph). They used the hand grenades. And this is - this doesn't require a great deal of training. And, of course, these weapons are also available in the open market.If the evidence is there, then I am one of the people who would say, yes, India really has been done a great deal of wrong. We have said - and Pakistan government policy has been very clearly enunciated - that we will punish them. Bring the evidence, we'll take them to task. But so far, no bodies have been shown, no faces have been shown. And this man has not also been brought before the cameras.I think the evidence has to be, because you cannot, on the basis of accusation alone, start taking actions which can unleash historical kind of changes. And this would be a watershed in the relationship between India and Pakistan, and we have to be very careful about it.ZAKARIA: But are you confident that the ISI does not have links, formal or informal, with Lashkar-e-Taiba?GUL: I have no linkages with them. But I do understand the character of an organization. It's a highly disciplined organization, unlike the other organizations. Their political appointees can be infiltrated.In the ISI, it is only the uniformed personnel who come and serve for two to three years. And then they revert back to their parent services. So, they are bread-and-butter. Their career advancement, their promotion chances - they all lie with the three armed services, that is, navy, army and the air force.So, there is one organization, intelligence organization, which would remain absolutely on the line. That would be the ISI.Unless you say that, OK, the army is behind it, the Pakistan government's policy is this. ISI cannot do a maverick job like this. It is unbelievable.ZAKARIA: The president of Pakistan, Mr. Zardari, the day after the attacks, said that he would send the head of the ISI to India to cooperate. The next day it was revealed that, effectively, the army chief of staff had overruled him.Is that appropriate for the elected head of state to be overruled by the head of the army?GUL: Well, I think it was a good thing that they withdrew their decision. And besides, sending the D.G. ISI is something totally - Indians should not have demanded this, and Pakistan should not have accepted to send him, because it was only an accusation at that time.And it was not a question of cooperation, it was a question of interrogating, summoning him. In fact, the word "summon" was used. And that was an affront to the national honor of Pakistan and that of the Pakistan armed forces.ZAKARIA: Do you think we should be thinking of al Qaeda as a terrorist group? I know that there was a conference in January 2001, which you attended, at which you felt that bin Laden was better described as a religious warrior, and should not actually be thought of as a terrorist.GUL: No. We said, unless the evidence is brought up against him, then he is not a terrorist. It's wrong. 9/11's full evidence has still not emerged. It is still shrouded in mystery.A lot of people have a lot of misgivings about that. And it's not only me. I think a lot of people in America would be thinking the same way. There are scientists, there are scholars, who have written articles on it.So, I think to dub a man as terrorist - because I know, I heard him twice say on radio, or something like that, and I think it was Osama - not only that, but Mullah Omar also said that he did not believe that Osama had carried out that act. So, that is still a mystery, and it needs to be resolved. Americans have still to set up a proper commission, an inquiry commission, into this event. I think that's very important. And I think President-designate Obama would do well to set up an inquiry commission into this.ZAKARIA: What is your hunch as to who did - who perpetrated the 9/11 attacks?GUL: Well, I have been on record, and I said it is the Zionists or (ph) the neocons. They have done it. It was an inside job.And they wanted to go on the world conquerors. They were looking upon it as an opportunity window, when the Muslim world was lying prostrate. Russia was nowhere in sight. China was still not an economic giant that is has turned out to be.And they thought that this was a good time to go and fill (ph) those strategic areas, which are still lying without any American presence. And, of course, to control the energy tap of the world.Presently, it is the Middle East, and in future it is going to be Central Asia. So, there are many, many XX. And, of course ...ZAKARIA: But you think ...GUL: ... XX.ZAKARIA: But you think who would be ...GUL: That's what I also think, yes.ZAKARIA: Who is at the heart of - who do you think was at the heart of plotting 9/11?GUL: At the - it's very difficult, really. I wouldn't point my finger at it.But I think it was planned in America. And at least one knows that it was done in Germany, as far as the reports go.But I think the heart of planning was inside America, because the job was done there. But not a single person so far has been captured, caught, interrogated inside America, even though this entire episode took place there.ZAKARIA: But you've said that the people behind it were the Zionists, neocon conspiracy. Do you mean by that American Jews? Do you mean Israel?GUL: No Israel. I will not - because Jews are also divided into - not all Jews are bad. Of course, there are a lot of things common between Jews and Muslims.In fact, they are the closest to us religion-wise, because some of their scriptures are respected by us. Their prophets are our prophets. They have the injunctions in Torah are very much similar to injunctions in the Holy Quran. So, there are things which are very common.But there are those people who are very ambitious, who have a certain agenda of their own. And I think they have turned the world upside-down, because of those ambitions or their fears.So, fear and ambitions are two things which have come together as far as Zionists are concerned. And they are trying to drive the policies of America. And unfortunately, the American people are suffering because of that.(END VIDEO)
alex jones interview 12/9/08
Minutes correlate to frnnkeducation youtube channel upload.
Lots of errors in capitalization and whatnot. Let's just say I don't have a career in trasnscribing.
and please, don't bitch to me about the errors. i only did this because alex said to. and i know most of you are too lazy to even try.
5-8 minutes - tragedy in Bombay and 9/11 inside jobs
"Well at the moment, we have to look at this as a great human tragedy that took place in Mumbai (Bombay). I sympathize with India, they've been rocked a bit badly. And the response is a bit nervous. They want to go to war with Pakistan. if Pakistan does not behave, or does not handle whatever they want from us. they've given a list of people. but I think there's been a longer of Indians accusing Pakistan whenever something like this happens. and they always turn out to be wrong. of course Pakistan is willing to cooperate and I think that's a good position that president alzwary has taken, that you provide the evidence, and we try them out, we will arrest them, we will put them through trial, and you can come and watch. let the international cameras come and see. there should be transparency, open trial, and if that doesn't satisfy you, what else will? so this is a situation where we stand today, where there is an ominous threat from India and America seems to be quietly patting them on the back and asking Pakistan to do whatever India is demanding. this is an unfair position, because India is not like America, America demanded from Pakistan after 9/11 to cooperate anybody that Pakistan could lay their hands on. 700 or so people were caught in Pakistan they war sent to gonthrama bay, to bagram, and to gucanpar yale, and nothing came out, except Muhammad, is the only one who is being tried for that case, all others have been let off. to get innocent people like that, just because you accuse them and you don’t even provide the evidence, to pick them up and throw them in jail, this is not on, the human values that particularly democracy upholds and talks about. so I think Pakistan offer isn't good enough and today Pakistan cracked down on some of the defunct organization and in fact these were banned in year 2000 and through immediately after 911 but there could be some maverick elements among them who I won't rule out who could carry out on their own or in conjunction with some other elements some kind of atrocities which I will not rule out. "
10-14 minutes - 9/11 inside job
"Are you talking about 9/11? Well, I have my own reasons, you know, rodnolan was a senior reporter here. I think he was based in Islamabad at that time, and he came to me immediately after 911, and his version that I put out was given to Newsweek and unfortunately it was blocked, but it appeared on the internet on the site of Newsweek and you can see it, I think it's dated 16 or 17th of 2001, and in that I had said the same thing, and I maintain my position. a. that 9/11 took place on American soil, not a single person was caught inside America, even though for doing such a job, I think a huge amount of logistic support is required in the area where such operation is carried out. secondly, the air traffic control, when they ordered 4 aircraft were giving some direction going from east to coast, to west coast where they were headed they started going in different direction. and it is quite amazing that for a l9ong period of time air traffic control did not report this. nor did the us. airforce act in time. if one were to calculate from the 1st flight that it took off from Logan, where the f-16 where it took off from Langley which is ciao headquarters, instead of one of the operational bases where many of them are available in that area. and then a single aircraft never takes off because we're told wherever the aircraft is scrambled, it's scrambled in twos. and that time that it took was enormous, it was 112 minutes, 112 minutes is a very long time in which to act. was the us air force sleeping and if so, which heads were rolled. 2nd it was a huge intelligence failure, and no heads have been rolled, nobody has been taken to task, not a single person has resigned for this . 3rdly, the act should have been rehashed, turned inside out, yet nothing has happened. and finally, how come this is a coincidence that 4 transponders did not work, and it is not possible, the direction is changed and it is not noted. 2ndly, the U.S. air force, has the ability, because in the past whenever a plane has been hijacked, within 7 minutes a plane is on the side of the aircraft, in this case, it did not happen. the us. alert system is so high and so sophisticated that if a missile was to take off from Moscow and head towards new York, it takes about 18 minutes, and the us. airforce and missile system is supposed to intercept it within 9 minutes, that means on the Atlantic or pacific it must stop that missile from coming in. the missile system is in place but it did not work and nobody tried to question this. lastly no inquiry has been held formally into the incident. unfortunately, so the whole world has been turned upside down, so many people have been killed American economy is going into a meltdown and everything has gone wrong with the world and yet no formal inquiry has been held by the us. gov.t , so I really don’t' know there are so many question that hang in the balance. and then to top it all, they say that Amoud who took training with a light aircraft in the army for 6 months that he could have maneuvered a jumbo of 757 from a height of where it was traveling of 9,000 and it came within seconds to a height of 1,000 and then went straight into its target, this is not possible for a person who has been trained on a light aircraft to do this. and then there's no mention of 2nd aircraft. so threes a number of things which remain unanswered whenever a jo8urnalist comes and visit me here and I ask them these question. that why haven't you taken the answer about these things. they say that patriotic act comes in the way and we are not supposed to ask such question. "
16-18 minutes- why is the us./Israeli gov'ts seeking dominance
"Well I think that after the cold war when Reaganomics it was known as, it was known that inflation was very high and the domestic issues had to be addressed. but bill Clinton administration they amassed a lot of money and the American economy went booming and he left a lot of money and the hot war cold warriors, they came in and the found that the situation was ready and they had a lot of money and resources and they looked at the bankers of the world for which there was an opportunity/window , the Muslim world was lying prostrate, Russia was not picking up from its fallen position, china was not ready yet, therefore they looked at it as an opportunity to go and do the following, and in this , I’m a soldier, and I know that there has to be a single aim, but they have =mixed up the aims, and they have botched up everything. first they said that they would go into strategic areas, where there was no us presence before. threaten the western Asia and south Asia where there was no America physical presence. they had to keep the Chinese off from getting the middle east. they had to get their hands on the energy tap of the world which presently lies in the middle east, but in future it will be in central Asia, and so Afghanistan is the gateway into central Asia, and finally to suppress any resistance, particularly which could threaten the state of Israel. now that is where they , instead of fulfilling ht American objective, they started, pursuing the Israel objective and that is where they went wrong. you have to pick up a single aim. this is the first principle of war, and I don’t know why the generals and politicians of America could be so naive and ignorant that they could start maligning in and they could go into this war without wisdom, without particular preparation and without the American support behind them. because if they had gone to war and asked for support from the American people they would never have given them that support and this was the pretext that they created."
21- 26 minutes - American/Israeli political manipulation, Bombay attacks false flag
"Well the motive is very simple. that America wants India to come aboard with them, especially in their war on terror, especially when they run out of troops in Afghanistan, the natal allies are pulling out, they are dragging their feet, they're not prepared to fight there. but they want to make it an Indian cause, and they want nearly 150,000 troops in Afghanistan. that is one reason, where there is an American motive. there is an Israeli motive that Americans should not pull out of Afghanistan just because they are short of troops. so they must have more troops there. because if they go away without denuclearizing Pakistan, state of Israel will remain under perpetual danger, so they have an innate fear that Americans may lose heart and pull out of this region. they're already going out of Iraq. and if they were to go o0ut of Afghanistan, this will be an unfinished agenda, and Israel would be at the losing end. so the neurons and Zionists together want to hatch a conspiracy so that Obama gets trapped into a situation where for next four years he'll keep on sorting out this embroil. as far as the ability is concerned which is the other element, can you imagine that people traveling from Karachi in two rickety boards that they can travel all the way to Bombay and fight a battle immediate for seventy two hours, and there are just ten of them, and in each group there are two. this is impossible, they were carry8ing so much of munitions with them, and that munitions lasted. they were fighting the crack troops of India army for so long, and you know that in marina house ,the five babushka hospitals, they were killed by the Indian commandoes. they were not killed by these people. so why would the Indian commandoes kill them. and Israelis suppressed this info, it initially came out in Indian daily, but then it was suppressed. so if you go by the record of the Indian accusations against Pakistan in the past year in 2001 Dec 13 there was an attack on the Indiana locrsiba, and they blamed Pakistan and loscribans for that but it turned out that it was Indian Kashmir’s themselves. and because India is committing so many atrocities in Kashmir, therefore threes a good reason for them that they would carry out something like that. then again in 2006, there was the Sunjata express case in which 68 express passengers mostly Pakistani war killed, and this train was stopped at an obscure railway station in Haryana and then over locked and then the train was set on fire and then it was claimed that it was Pakistani leshperitibaa, and that they had done it because they wanted to derail the peace process. but now colonel proho, of citicon proho has caught in it, and there are other Indian officers his accomplices and he has a big network
, that took ardiac(explosive) from the orally depot, which is a military depot, so one could say that there is a deep penetration of the militant Hindu in the military and intelligence organization in India. and why would they do that? because they want to derail the peace process. and what Obama says is that he will mediate on Kashmir, and then as the Kashmir political movement is picking up movement, he said with this situation, he said he would send bill Clinton as the political mediator. obviously the militants of India do not want t his to happen and they had to preempt it.
so Pakistan doesn’t gain, the Pakistani ISI does gain anything from it. net benefit either the militant Hindu on the next election....(interrupted for break)"
26-29 minutes - aggressive policy us. and India towards Pakistan prelude to central Asian dominance
"Yes indeed, I think the Americans and the Indians have both been very responsible about it because Condoleezza Rice's statements in America in India when she went and visited Delhi, they were very threatening towards Pakistan, and it was sort of a dictation that you have to satisfy India. and this is amazing that Pakistan has to satisfy India. on what score? Indians have failed to come up with evidence. and this one man that they've got, who knows that he is not a bogey? and that this man was loitering around somewhere, there are lots of Pakistani who cross the border, who cross around illegally or legally, and he could have been picked up and become the front man for all those stories. so one doesn’t really know, it’s too early to be threading war against Pakistan, because Pakistan is a nuclear country, and if they brandish their power, in a conventional power, I will assure you that as a soldier, I will say that a dimensional war, limited war, within the nuclear environment is not possible in the subcontinent. and if it comes to an exchange of nuclear weapons, then this becomes the third world war. china cannot stay out, Russia will not stay out, Russia is already showing its belligerence towards the America and European china of course is a very major economic power, they are a nuclear power, and if this kind of thing happens in their backyard, they will not accept it,. so this is a very dangerous situation. I think its playing with fire. so the whole thing could get out of hand. it is, again, as I told you, the part of the unfinished agenda, that the neurons had in their minds. And they think that Obama will now carry it out, even though the Americans wanted change. But let’s look at what change means, I mean, Obama has not clearly enunciated what change would be. but one can assume that change means focusing on domestic issues, there is an economic meltdown, the car industry is going sick, and many other things are happening inside America the social welfare and the Medicare infrastructure, so all these things, there is a need for the new admin, to focus entirely on the domestic issues, and for that they will have to disengage externally."
30-32 minutes - global domination by us./ Zionists
"Yes indeed, you're right. because, there is a whole theory, which us, military first put out by Mckinder, and then Mahan, who was an admiral in the us. navy. that this is the rim land, you have to first control the rim land of Asia, before you can strike in the heartland of Asia. so this heartland, rim land thing, I think it fits into the picture, that if they have a conflict in the rim land, and they can control it, and then it becomes so much easier to penetrate into the heartland. it is really asking so much when America is not really in a very healthy economic condition, so I think that this is brinkmanship of the highest order. and if they enlarge the area of conflict in this war against terrorism. and if they prolong the period of conflict, that America will definitely lose. because I know that when you are fighting the irregular fighters, then area of conflict is enlarged, let’s say it is extended into tribal area of Pakistan, of its pushed into Kashmir as well, so that china can be watched and monitored quite easily. then the area will become larger, and the us. simply does not have the troops. and there is not a moral cause strong enough for the American people to babe mobilized behind it. so it is shear madness to be thinking about this at such a time. "
32-36 minutes - meeting Osama,
"Well, I was actually in charge of occupation against the soviet occupation of Afghanistan and the Americans were providing the logistic support. and the Saudi’s were sharing 1/2 of the budget for this war. and it was a cheap war, because in all the 10 years we were fighting the Russians, we spent not more than 5 billion from American exchequer to have defeated the Russian and rid the whole of the west of the threat, managed that they used to call. so at that time, Osama bin laden, and his colleagues, they were admired and romanticized by cia operations,. I had never met him then. I had nothi8nhg to do with him. because I was busy training the afghans. we had to win a war, we had a task on our hands , it was a very big task. and we were so occupied with the training, only the afghans, no other national was trained by the isi, I can vouch on that, not a single person, not even , a Pakistani was trained by hem. Osama bin laden, I had never met him, but the these people used to come and talk glowingly about him. I met Osama bin laden after my retirement from the army. in 1993, December in fartoum, and then again, in 1994, November, when I was there and invited by azrabi, to an international conference, and then during that conference, Osama invited us into a banquet, and it was all in an open place, and there were many other people present. he struck me as a very normal human being. not a bloodthirsty animal that he's presented to be by the CIA now. at that time, no conversation between him or =me took place. I don't know if he's living or dead. but so far, amand zowari has been giving, presenting him in various interviews of Osama that has been put out. so one doesn't really know. but the last interview, which was the worst interview. in that, to the CIA and the other us intelligence agencies, authenticated that it was Osama’s voice. so one doesn’t' really know whether he's living or dead. but even if he's not living, he is now a symbol. al Qaeda is a franchise. whoever created that, and for whatever reason they created it, I think it wasn't there until 1996 when he was launched in fartoum, later on he was invited by rabhani, who is now part of the northern alliance in Kabul, and he came over and set up his headquarters in a place called torah Bora in Jalalabad, but that’s where one started hearing of al Qaeda and the activities of Osama bin laden, and also that his commanders were responsible for bringing the Blackhawk down, in the famous operation in Mogadishu. where an American aircraft was brought down by a stinger, which was probably supplied in Afghanistan to support mujahedeen. "
37-38 minutes - fake Osama
"Yes there is no doubt about it that this video which was put out in November which was put out by George bush and said this was Osama bin laden, he was a high cheekbone like the mongoloid features, he wasn't as tall as Osama was, and one could clearly make out that this was doctored, it had been created on purpose, just to justify the attack on Afghanistan. I think there are many things that are going wrong or being done at the behest of the CIA which are not correct. the CIA used to be good when they were working with us. I think it is their overarching ambition or fear that America will lose its clout. whatever the reason or it is perhaps that the Israelis fear that they are surrounded by a sea of hostile enemies who if the Americans don’t deliver fatal blow to all their enemies, then they will probably not exist. "
39 -40 min - state of Israel, belligerent Zionist/Neocon policies
"Yes indeed, and I think this 2006 sept experience if it is any indicator for them when they went into southern Lebanon, and they got such a buffering from Hezbollah I think that they're not going to do such thing like that because it would mean annihilation of Israel, and in any case, the Palestinian question is a very poignant question, and I don’t know why the us admin is not addressing it diff. instead of two different states it should be one Abrahamic state of Palestine because all the 3 religions would claim that they are divine religion have their origin in Palestine and something new has to be though about. but unfortunately bush admin in its very abhorrent overages of its seniority, it turns out they will sort out this Palestinian issue by creating two states. after 8 years we have gotten nowhere at all. "
40- 42minutes - false terror
"Yes., I think they are simply afraid of me because I’ve worked with them, I understand them, I can mayor them up and I talk loudly about it, I mince no words, I pull no punches, and they are afraid I preempt whatever feelings they do. and I am loud voice, there is no doubt about it. and they are trying to frame me, there is no truth about it. if they had anything about me, when I applied for a renewal of my visa to America why did they not give it to me? because if they have something, they are looking around for terrorists hwy do this terrorist want to come over and visit America, nab me, interrogate me, take me to task, take me to court, do whatever you like. it only shows that they have something to hide. as far as bombings is concerned, it is their habit, is a very bad habit, they cultivate friends who become like Pervez Musharraf, dictators, and then they make use of them, and then they turn on them in condemnation because of their policies. And what was your last question?"
42- 44 minutes - west using false mujahedeen to try to overthrow Pakistan
"No, Benazhir was not killed by any of the terrorists. she was removed by Americans because she had violated her agreement, because they wanted to keep Pervez Musharaff there, and he's left (unintelligible) in Pakistan. so she had become rebellious, and such a person who is a popular leader of third world country, head of the largest political party a woman who they could not attack as fundamentalist because she was so westernized so, therefore it was very important to remove her, because they had a mysterious plan they wanted to put through. so they have installed instead Mr. zarvari, who they can blackmail very easily, but have allowed him to keep the powers of a dictator, in fact he is the one calling all the shots in Pakistan. so all Pakistani is already destabilized politically. our judicial institution does not exist. because there is a judicial crisis. recently the dethroned chief justice of Pakistan---(interrupted)"
44-45 minutes - who's staging the terrorist attacks in Pakistan and India?
"No, no, no, this is because landmassiff was attacked, and I think George bush addressed his nation on radio after that. said this was part of our plan in war against terrorism, because they were suspecting that Pakistani army and isi was not fully cooperating and because they did not consider that it was their war and therefore they created this situation where the terrorist out of sheer revenge, this is a tradition, it has nothing to do with Islam, it is (?), beholding to this tradition, long before they became Muslim, and they are still carrying it out. when you take action against a awhan, kill his daughter or his wife or his sister, he will take revenge no matter what happens. and he does not behave like a Muslim or any other entity, so this was a thing that was created, and of course Pakistan is in a very difficult position, we have a stable military institution which can control the situation, we have an isi, but the Americans are almost everywhere, attacking the isi, and attacking the military saying the this is not in the control of the political party, political power, but what is political power when parliament is signing the order, it does not work, it has no authority at all. "
46- minutes- was gen amud controlled by CIA? did he wire money to Muhammad Atta?
"Not at all, Mahmud is a friend of mine, I met him very recently in Lahore and he categorically denied this. I think this is all disinformation which has been adopted as a very sophisticated intelligence operation. "
46- minutes - terror attacks false flag in central Asia?
"This is reality, and they will retaliate. I can tell you that Afghanistan , in over 5,000 years nobody has won against them, and I think Americans cannot win, unless American intention is to stir up 3rd world war from this point. I think there is no point in staying in Afghanistan. you should negotiate with the opposition which is a national resistance now, it is no longer Taliban specific, it is afghan nation, true to their tradition, they are resisting ferociously
47 -minutes -west opium control
"Well he is a puppet of Kabul, and he will not stay very long, I can assure you, he's already started showing signs of openness, he wants to reach out to the Taliban, but the Taliban will not even throw a crumb at him. I can assure you, the Taliban or any other resistance fighters, they will have nothing to do with him."
48 min - Reuters exposes Taliban dominance in afghan
"I have no idea, but I think light has started coming out, like Robert kagans article in Washington post dec 2, it echoes the world at risk repot, it is similar. they are focusing on Pakistan, because nuke capability is unacceptable by Israel and India, and there is every possibility that Pakistan becomes a target. "
49 minutes - future possibilities
"No one is so stupid. we've been through the game. far leftist parties in India are very strong. India is slowly turning the world to its own problems. they signed India, feel good Indian, this is all make believe. propaganda. India is in a miserable state. economy is dwindling, 400 million living on less than $1 a day. this is beginning to have an effect because 108,000 farmers committed suffice, and this is not born out of 608 districts of India, 231 in turmoil, mostly under control of dictators. "
--End statements.
"Thank you sir. Oh, I don't have a website, unfortunately, but I think you have a website, they can read my (statements there)" INFOWARS.COM!!!
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ZAKARIA: General Gul, you know that the United States has given four names to the United Nations of ISI officers whom it would like to place on an international terrorist list. You are one of those four names.What's your reaction to that.GEN. HAMID GUL, FORMER PAKISTANI INTELLIGENCE CHIEF (via broadband): I think this is a frame-up, a total frame-up. I have - I have my own (ph) voice. And I raise. I have a position which I express freely, openly. I'm like an open book.This is preposterous. This is wrong. This is fallacious. And if my government does not ...ZAKARIA: What are the charges against you?GUL: ... XX me, they ...ZAKARIA: What are the charges against you?GUL: Their charges are that I am helping the Taliban and al Qaeda. And what - this is so generalized. And particularly, there is the mention of Sarajo Din Nohani (ph), whom I have never seen in my life. I don't know who he is. I knew his father, Jalal ud-Din Nohani (ph), way back when I was D.G. ISI. But that's been a long time ago.I have nothing to do - I have no means to help them. But, of course, my position is that Americans have aggressed in Afghanistan. And whoever is resisting, the resistance there is justifiable.So, that is my position. I will maintain that position. If that becomes the basis of dubbing me as terrorist, then I would say, it's all right.But other than that, to say that I'm practically involved in any kind of help - absolutely wrong. I am not that at all. ZAKARIA: General Gul, when you read about these attacks in Mumbai, and you see - when you read about the attacks in Mumbai, this is a three-stage, amphibious assault in which the boats were commandeered, the captain and crew then killed.They maintained radio silence. They split up into pairs. They know their locations. They make a few false targets to draw the first responders there.This seems like a military operation.Isn't it likely that there was some special forces or intelligence assistance given to these attackers?GUL: Indeed. I think that this was a very sophisticated operation. There is no doubt about it. It has rocked the - and I have all my sympathies for India - they rock this huge country for 72 hours. And they really don't know how to react and respond to this.But when you look at the full spectrum of possibilities, who could have done it, then one knows that Samjhauta Express was a similar case, in which Pakistan ISI was accused. But it turned out that it was the militant Hindus themselves who had killed 68 passengers in that train, and that it was an inside job.Now Colonel Srikant Purohit, who is a serving army officer, he has been caught in this particular case. And the whole thing has turned around.So, obviously, there is an inside job.ZAKARIA: If it turns out, as the one surviving terrorist says, that these people were trained in Pakistan in four separate locations, do you think it would be retired ISI people? Who would be training these groups?GUL: Not necessarily. It is a question of motivation only. If somebody is motivated, then it is - because what kind of weapons did they use? That's very important. They used flashing (ph) calls (ph). They used the hand grenades. And this is - this doesn't require a great deal of training. And, of course, these weapons are also available in the open market.If the evidence is there, then I am one of the people who would say, yes, India really has been done a great deal of wrong. We have said - and Pakistan government policy has been very clearly enunciated - that we will punish them. Bring the evidence, we'll take them to task. But so far, no bodies have been shown, no faces have been shown. And this man has not also been brought before the cameras.I think the evidence has to be, because you cannot, on the basis of accusation alone, start taking actions which can unleash historical kind of changes. And this would be a watershed in the relationship between India and Pakistan, and we have to be very careful about it.ZAKARIA: But are you confident that the ISI does not have links, formal or informal, with Lashkar-e-Taiba?GUL: I have no linkages with them. But I do understand the character of an organization. It's a highly disciplined organization, unlike the other organizations. Their political appointees can be infiltrated.In the ISI, it is only the uniformed personnel who come and serve for two to three years. And then they revert back to their parent services. So, they are bread-and-butter. Their career advancement, their promotion chances - they all lie with the three armed services, that is, navy, army and the air force.So, there is one organization, intelligence organization, which would remain absolutely on the line. That would be the ISI.Unless you say that, OK, the army is behind it, the Pakistan government's policy is this. ISI cannot do a maverick job like this. It is unbelievable.ZAKARIA: The president of Pakistan, Mr. Zardari, the day after the attacks, said that he would send the head of the ISI to India to cooperate. The next day it was revealed that, effectively, the army chief of staff had overruled him.Is that appropriate for the elected head of state to be overruled by the head of the army?GUL: Well, I think it was a good thing that they withdrew their decision. And besides, sending the D.G. ISI is something totally - Indians should not have demanded this, and Pakistan should not have accepted to send him, because it was only an accusation at that time.And it was not a question of cooperation, it was a question of interrogating, summoning him. In fact, the word "summon" was used. And that was an affront to the national honor of Pakistan and that of the Pakistan armed forces.ZAKARIA: Do you think we should be thinking of al Qaeda as a terrorist group? I know that there was a conference in January 2001, which you attended, at which you felt that bin Laden was better described as a religious warrior, and should not actually be thought of as a terrorist.GUL: No. We said, unless the evidence is brought up against him, then he is not a terrorist. It's wrong. 9/11's full evidence has still not emerged. It is still shrouded in mystery.A lot of people have a lot of misgivings about that. And it's not only me. I think a lot of people in America would be thinking the same way. There are scientists, there are scholars, who have written articles on it.So, I think to dub a man as terrorist - because I know, I heard him twice say on radio, or something like that, and I think it was Osama - not only that, but Mullah Omar also said that he did not believe that Osama had carried out that act. So, that is still a mystery, and it needs to be resolved. Americans have still to set up a proper commission, an inquiry commission, into this event. I think that's very important. And I think President-designate Obama would do well to set up an inquiry commission into this.ZAKARIA: What is your hunch as to who did - who perpetrated the 9/11 attacks?GUL: Well, I have been on record, and I said it is the Zionists or (ph) the neocons. They have done it. It was an inside job.And they wanted to go on the world conquerors. They were looking upon it as an opportunity window, when the Muslim world was lying prostrate. Russia was nowhere in sight. China was still not an economic giant that is has turned out to be.And they thought that this was a good time to go and fill (ph) those strategic areas, which are still lying without any American presence. And, of course, to control the energy tap of the world.Presently, it is the Middle East, and in future it is going to be Central Asia. So, there are many, many XX. And, of course ...ZAKARIA: But you think ...GUL: ... XX.ZAKARIA: But you think who would be ...GUL: That's what I also think, yes.ZAKARIA: Who is at the heart of - who do you think was at the heart of plotting 9/11?GUL: At the - it's very difficult, really. I wouldn't point my finger at it.But I think it was planned in America. And at least one knows that it was done in Germany, as far as the reports go.But I think the heart of planning was inside America, because the job was done there. But not a single person so far has been captured, caught, interrogated inside America, even though this entire episode took place there.ZAKARIA: But you've said that the people behind it were the Zionists, neocon conspiracy. Do you mean by that American Jews? Do you mean Israel?GUL: No Israel. I will not - because Jews are also divided into - not all Jews are bad. Of course, there are a lot of things common between Jews and Muslims.In fact, they are the closest to us religion-wise, because some of their scriptures are respected by us. Their prophets are our prophets. They have the injunctions in Torah are very much similar to injunctions in the Holy Quran. So, there are things which are very common.But there are those people who are very ambitious, who have a certain agenda of their own. And I think they have turned the world upside-down, because of those ambitions or their fears.So, fear and ambitions are two things which have come together as far as Zionists are concerned. And they are trying to drive the policies of America. And unfortunately, the American people are suffering because of that.(END VIDEO)
alex jones interview 12/9/08
Minutes correlate to frnnkeducation youtube channel upload.
Lots of errors in capitalization and whatnot. Let's just say I don't have a career in trasnscribing.
and please, don't bitch to me about the errors. i only did this because alex said to. and i know most of you are too lazy to even try.
5-8 minutes - tragedy in Bombay and 9/11 inside jobs
"Well at the moment, we have to look at this as a great human tragedy that took place in Mumbai (Bombay). I sympathize with India, they've been rocked a bit badly. And the response is a bit nervous. They want to go to war with Pakistan. if Pakistan does not behave, or does not handle whatever they want from us. they've given a list of people. but I think there's been a longer of Indians accusing Pakistan whenever something like this happens. and they always turn out to be wrong. of course Pakistan is willing to cooperate and I think that's a good position that president alzwary has taken, that you provide the evidence, and we try them out, we will arrest them, we will put them through trial, and you can come and watch. let the international cameras come and see. there should be transparency, open trial, and if that doesn't satisfy you, what else will? so this is a situation where we stand today, where there is an ominous threat from India and America seems to be quietly patting them on the back and asking Pakistan to do whatever India is demanding. this is an unfair position, because India is not like America, America demanded from Pakistan after 9/11 to cooperate anybody that Pakistan could lay their hands on. 700 or so people were caught in Pakistan they war sent to gonthrama bay, to bagram, and to gucanpar yale, and nothing came out, except Muhammad, is the only one who is being tried for that case, all others have been let off. to get innocent people like that, just because you accuse them and you don’t even provide the evidence, to pick them up and throw them in jail, this is not on, the human values that particularly democracy upholds and talks about. so I think Pakistan offer isn't good enough and today Pakistan cracked down on some of the defunct organization and in fact these were banned in year 2000 and through immediately after 911 but there could be some maverick elements among them who I won't rule out who could carry out on their own or in conjunction with some other elements some kind of atrocities which I will not rule out. "
10-14 minutes - 9/11 inside job
"Are you talking about 9/11? Well, I have my own reasons, you know, rodnolan was a senior reporter here. I think he was based in Islamabad at that time, and he came to me immediately after 911, and his version that I put out was given to Newsweek and unfortunately it was blocked, but it appeared on the internet on the site of Newsweek and you can see it, I think it's dated 16 or 17th of 2001, and in that I had said the same thing, and I maintain my position. a. that 9/11 took place on American soil, not a single person was caught inside America, even though for doing such a job, I think a huge amount of logistic support is required in the area where such operation is carried out. secondly, the air traffic control, when they ordered 4 aircraft were giving some direction going from east to coast, to west coast where they were headed they started going in different direction. and it is quite amazing that for a l9ong period of time air traffic control did not report this. nor did the us. airforce act in time. if one were to calculate from the 1st flight that it took off from Logan, where the f-16 where it took off from Langley which is ciao headquarters, instead of one of the operational bases where many of them are available in that area. and then a single aircraft never takes off because we're told wherever the aircraft is scrambled, it's scrambled in twos. and that time that it took was enormous, it was 112 minutes, 112 minutes is a very long time in which to act. was the us air force sleeping and if so, which heads were rolled. 2nd it was a huge intelligence failure, and no heads have been rolled, nobody has been taken to task, not a single person has resigned for this . 3rdly, the act should have been rehashed, turned inside out, yet nothing has happened. and finally, how come this is a coincidence that 4 transponders did not work, and it is not possible, the direction is changed and it is not noted. 2ndly, the U.S. air force, has the ability, because in the past whenever a plane has been hijacked, within 7 minutes a plane is on the side of the aircraft, in this case, it did not happen. the us. alert system is so high and so sophisticated that if a missile was to take off from Moscow and head towards new York, it takes about 18 minutes, and the us. airforce and missile system is supposed to intercept it within 9 minutes, that means on the Atlantic or pacific it must stop that missile from coming in. the missile system is in place but it did not work and nobody tried to question this. lastly no inquiry has been held formally into the incident. unfortunately, so the whole world has been turned upside down, so many people have been killed American economy is going into a meltdown and everything has gone wrong with the world and yet no formal inquiry has been held by the us. gov.t , so I really don’t' know there are so many question that hang in the balance. and then to top it all, they say that Amoud who took training with a light aircraft in the army for 6 months that he could have maneuvered a jumbo of 757 from a height of where it was traveling of 9,000 and it came within seconds to a height of 1,000 and then went straight into its target, this is not possible for a person who has been trained on a light aircraft to do this. and then there's no mention of 2nd aircraft. so threes a number of things which remain unanswered whenever a jo8urnalist comes and visit me here and I ask them these question. that why haven't you taken the answer about these things. they say that patriotic act comes in the way and we are not supposed to ask such question. "
16-18 minutes- why is the us./Israeli gov'ts seeking dominance
"Well I think that after the cold war when Reaganomics it was known as, it was known that inflation was very high and the domestic issues had to be addressed. but bill Clinton administration they amassed a lot of money and the American economy went booming and he left a lot of money and the hot war cold warriors, they came in and the found that the situation was ready and they had a lot of money and resources and they looked at the bankers of the world for which there was an opportunity/window , the Muslim world was lying prostrate, Russia was not picking up from its fallen position, china was not ready yet, therefore they looked at it as an opportunity to go and do the following, and in this , I’m a soldier, and I know that there has to be a single aim, but they have =mixed up the aims, and they have botched up everything. first they said that they would go into strategic areas, where there was no us presence before. threaten the western Asia and south Asia where there was no America physical presence. they had to keep the Chinese off from getting the middle east. they had to get their hands on the energy tap of the world which presently lies in the middle east, but in future it will be in central Asia, and so Afghanistan is the gateway into central Asia, and finally to suppress any resistance, particularly which could threaten the state of Israel. now that is where they , instead of fulfilling ht American objective, they started, pursuing the Israel objective and that is where they went wrong. you have to pick up a single aim. this is the first principle of war, and I don’t know why the generals and politicians of America could be so naive and ignorant that they could start maligning in and they could go into this war without wisdom, without particular preparation and without the American support behind them. because if they had gone to war and asked for support from the American people they would never have given them that support and this was the pretext that they created."
21- 26 minutes - American/Israeli political manipulation, Bombay attacks false flag
"Well the motive is very simple. that America wants India to come aboard with them, especially in their war on terror, especially when they run out of troops in Afghanistan, the natal allies are pulling out, they are dragging their feet, they're not prepared to fight there. but they want to make it an Indian cause, and they want nearly 150,000 troops in Afghanistan. that is one reason, where there is an American motive. there is an Israeli motive that Americans should not pull out of Afghanistan just because they are short of troops. so they must have more troops there. because if they go away without denuclearizing Pakistan, state of Israel will remain under perpetual danger, so they have an innate fear that Americans may lose heart and pull out of this region. they're already going out of Iraq. and if they were to go o0ut of Afghanistan, this will be an unfinished agenda, and Israel would be at the losing end. so the neurons and Zionists together want to hatch a conspiracy so that Obama gets trapped into a situation where for next four years he'll keep on sorting out this embroil. as far as the ability is concerned which is the other element, can you imagine that people traveling from Karachi in two rickety boards that they can travel all the way to Bombay and fight a battle immediate for seventy two hours, and there are just ten of them, and in each group there are two. this is impossible, they were carry8ing so much of munitions with them, and that munitions lasted. they were fighting the crack troops of India army for so long, and you know that in marina house ,the five babushka hospitals, they were killed by the Indian commandoes. they were not killed by these people. so why would the Indian commandoes kill them. and Israelis suppressed this info, it initially came out in Indian daily, but then it was suppressed. so if you go by the record of the Indian accusations against Pakistan in the past year in 2001 Dec 13 there was an attack on the Indiana locrsiba, and they blamed Pakistan and loscribans for that but it turned out that it was Indian Kashmir’s themselves. and because India is committing so many atrocities in Kashmir, therefore threes a good reason for them that they would carry out something like that. then again in 2006, there was the Sunjata express case in which 68 express passengers mostly Pakistani war killed, and this train was stopped at an obscure railway station in Haryana and then over locked and then the train was set on fire and then it was claimed that it was Pakistani leshperitibaa, and that they had done it because they wanted to derail the peace process. but now colonel proho, of citicon proho has caught in it, and there are other Indian officers his accomplices and he has a big network
, that took ardiac(explosive) from the orally depot, which is a military depot, so one could say that there is a deep penetration of the militant Hindu in the military and intelligence organization in India. and why would they do that? because they want to derail the peace process. and what Obama says is that he will mediate on Kashmir, and then as the Kashmir political movement is picking up movement, he said with this situation, he said he would send bill Clinton as the political mediator. obviously the militants of India do not want t his to happen and they had to preempt it.
so Pakistan doesn’t gain, the Pakistani ISI does gain anything from it. net benefit either the militant Hindu on the next election....(interrupted for break)"
26-29 minutes - aggressive policy us. and India towards Pakistan prelude to central Asian dominance
"Yes indeed, I think the Americans and the Indians have both been very responsible about it because Condoleezza Rice's statements in America in India when she went and visited Delhi, they were very threatening towards Pakistan, and it was sort of a dictation that you have to satisfy India. and this is amazing that Pakistan has to satisfy India. on what score? Indians have failed to come up with evidence. and this one man that they've got, who knows that he is not a bogey? and that this man was loitering around somewhere, there are lots of Pakistani who cross the border, who cross around illegally or legally, and he could have been picked up and become the front man for all those stories. so one doesn’t really know, it’s too early to be threading war against Pakistan, because Pakistan is a nuclear country, and if they brandish their power, in a conventional power, I will assure you that as a soldier, I will say that a dimensional war, limited war, within the nuclear environment is not possible in the subcontinent. and if it comes to an exchange of nuclear weapons, then this becomes the third world war. china cannot stay out, Russia will not stay out, Russia is already showing its belligerence towards the America and European china of course is a very major economic power, they are a nuclear power, and if this kind of thing happens in their backyard, they will not accept it,. so this is a very dangerous situation. I think its playing with fire. so the whole thing could get out of hand. it is, again, as I told you, the part of the unfinished agenda, that the neurons had in their minds. And they think that Obama will now carry it out, even though the Americans wanted change. But let’s look at what change means, I mean, Obama has not clearly enunciated what change would be. but one can assume that change means focusing on domestic issues, there is an economic meltdown, the car industry is going sick, and many other things are happening inside America the social welfare and the Medicare infrastructure, so all these things, there is a need for the new admin, to focus entirely on the domestic issues, and for that they will have to disengage externally."
30-32 minutes - global domination by us./ Zionists
"Yes indeed, you're right. because, there is a whole theory, which us, military first put out by Mckinder, and then Mahan, who was an admiral in the us. navy. that this is the rim land, you have to first control the rim land of Asia, before you can strike in the heartland of Asia. so this heartland, rim land thing, I think it fits into the picture, that if they have a conflict in the rim land, and they can control it, and then it becomes so much easier to penetrate into the heartland. it is really asking so much when America is not really in a very healthy economic condition, so I think that this is brinkmanship of the highest order. and if they enlarge the area of conflict in this war against terrorism. and if they prolong the period of conflict, that America will definitely lose. because I know that when you are fighting the irregular fighters, then area of conflict is enlarged, let’s say it is extended into tribal area of Pakistan, of its pushed into Kashmir as well, so that china can be watched and monitored quite easily. then the area will become larger, and the us. simply does not have the troops. and there is not a moral cause strong enough for the American people to babe mobilized behind it. so it is shear madness to be thinking about this at such a time. "
32-36 minutes - meeting Osama,
"Well, I was actually in charge of occupation against the soviet occupation of Afghanistan and the Americans were providing the logistic support. and the Saudi’s were sharing 1/2 of the budget for this war. and it was a cheap war, because in all the 10 years we were fighting the Russians, we spent not more than 5 billion from American exchequer to have defeated the Russian and rid the whole of the west of the threat, managed that they used to call. so at that time, Osama bin laden, and his colleagues, they were admired and romanticized by cia operations,. I had never met him then. I had nothi8nhg to do with him. because I was busy training the afghans. we had to win a war, we had a task on our hands , it was a very big task. and we were so occupied with the training, only the afghans, no other national was trained by the isi, I can vouch on that, not a single person, not even , a Pakistani was trained by hem. Osama bin laden, I had never met him, but the these people used to come and talk glowingly about him. I met Osama bin laden after my retirement from the army. in 1993, December in fartoum, and then again, in 1994, November, when I was there and invited by azrabi, to an international conference, and then during that conference, Osama invited us into a banquet, and it was all in an open place, and there were many other people present. he struck me as a very normal human being. not a bloodthirsty animal that he's presented to be by the CIA now. at that time, no conversation between him or =me took place. I don't know if he's living or dead. but so far, amand zowari has been giving, presenting him in various interviews of Osama that has been put out. so one doesn't really know. but the last interview, which was the worst interview. in that, to the CIA and the other us intelligence agencies, authenticated that it was Osama’s voice. so one doesn’t' really know whether he's living or dead. but even if he's not living, he is now a symbol. al Qaeda is a franchise. whoever created that, and for whatever reason they created it, I think it wasn't there until 1996 when he was launched in fartoum, later on he was invited by rabhani, who is now part of the northern alliance in Kabul, and he came over and set up his headquarters in a place called torah Bora in Jalalabad, but that’s where one started hearing of al Qaeda and the activities of Osama bin laden, and also that his commanders were responsible for bringing the Blackhawk down, in the famous operation in Mogadishu. where an American aircraft was brought down by a stinger, which was probably supplied in Afghanistan to support mujahedeen. "
37-38 minutes - fake Osama
"Yes there is no doubt about it that this video which was put out in November which was put out by George bush and said this was Osama bin laden, he was a high cheekbone like the mongoloid features, he wasn't as tall as Osama was, and one could clearly make out that this was doctored, it had been created on purpose, just to justify the attack on Afghanistan. I think there are many things that are going wrong or being done at the behest of the CIA which are not correct. the CIA used to be good when they were working with us. I think it is their overarching ambition or fear that America will lose its clout. whatever the reason or it is perhaps that the Israelis fear that they are surrounded by a sea of hostile enemies who if the Americans don’t deliver fatal blow to all their enemies, then they will probably not exist. "
39 -40 min - state of Israel, belligerent Zionist/Neocon policies
"Yes indeed, and I think this 2006 sept experience if it is any indicator for them when they went into southern Lebanon, and they got such a buffering from Hezbollah I think that they're not going to do such thing like that because it would mean annihilation of Israel, and in any case, the Palestinian question is a very poignant question, and I don’t know why the us admin is not addressing it diff. instead of two different states it should be one Abrahamic state of Palestine because all the 3 religions would claim that they are divine religion have their origin in Palestine and something new has to be though about. but unfortunately bush admin in its very abhorrent overages of its seniority, it turns out they will sort out this Palestinian issue by creating two states. after 8 years we have gotten nowhere at all. "
40- 42minutes - false terror
"Yes., I think they are simply afraid of me because I’ve worked with them, I understand them, I can mayor them up and I talk loudly about it, I mince no words, I pull no punches, and they are afraid I preempt whatever feelings they do. and I am loud voice, there is no doubt about it. and they are trying to frame me, there is no truth about it. if they had anything about me, when I applied for a renewal of my visa to America why did they not give it to me? because if they have something, they are looking around for terrorists hwy do this terrorist want to come over and visit America, nab me, interrogate me, take me to task, take me to court, do whatever you like. it only shows that they have something to hide. as far as bombings is concerned, it is their habit, is a very bad habit, they cultivate friends who become like Pervez Musharraf, dictators, and then they make use of them, and then they turn on them in condemnation because of their policies. And what was your last question?"
42- 44 minutes - west using false mujahedeen to try to overthrow Pakistan
"No, Benazhir was not killed by any of the terrorists. she was removed by Americans because she had violated her agreement, because they wanted to keep Pervez Musharaff there, and he's left (unintelligible) in Pakistan. so she had become rebellious, and such a person who is a popular leader of third world country, head of the largest political party a woman who they could not attack as fundamentalist because she was so westernized so, therefore it was very important to remove her, because they had a mysterious plan they wanted to put through. so they have installed instead Mr. zarvari, who they can blackmail very easily, but have allowed him to keep the powers of a dictator, in fact he is the one calling all the shots in Pakistan. so all Pakistani is already destabilized politically. our judicial institution does not exist. because there is a judicial crisis. recently the dethroned chief justice of Pakistan---(interrupted)"
44-45 minutes - who's staging the terrorist attacks in Pakistan and India?
"No, no, no, this is because landmassiff was attacked, and I think George bush addressed his nation on radio after that. said this was part of our plan in war against terrorism, because they were suspecting that Pakistani army and isi was not fully cooperating and because they did not consider that it was their war and therefore they created this situation where the terrorist out of sheer revenge, this is a tradition, it has nothing to do with Islam, it is (?), beholding to this tradition, long before they became Muslim, and they are still carrying it out. when you take action against a awhan, kill his daughter or his wife or his sister, he will take revenge no matter what happens. and he does not behave like a Muslim or any other entity, so this was a thing that was created, and of course Pakistan is in a very difficult position, we have a stable military institution which can control the situation, we have an isi, but the Americans are almost everywhere, attacking the isi, and attacking the military saying the this is not in the control of the political party, political power, but what is political power when parliament is signing the order, it does not work, it has no authority at all. "
46- minutes- was gen amud controlled by CIA? did he wire money to Muhammad Atta?
"Not at all, Mahmud is a friend of mine, I met him very recently in Lahore and he categorically denied this. I think this is all disinformation which has been adopted as a very sophisticated intelligence operation. "
46- minutes - terror attacks false flag in central Asia?
"This is reality, and they will retaliate. I can tell you that Afghanistan , in over 5,000 years nobody has won against them, and I think Americans cannot win, unless American intention is to stir up 3rd world war from this point. I think there is no point in staying in Afghanistan. you should negotiate with the opposition which is a national resistance now, it is no longer Taliban specific, it is afghan nation, true to their tradition, they are resisting ferociously
47 -minutes -west opium control
"Well he is a puppet of Kabul, and he will not stay very long, I can assure you, he's already started showing signs of openness, he wants to reach out to the Taliban, but the Taliban will not even throw a crumb at him. I can assure you, the Taliban or any other resistance fighters, they will have nothing to do with him."
48 min - Reuters exposes Taliban dominance in afghan
"I have no idea, but I think light has started coming out, like Robert kagans article in Washington post dec 2, it echoes the world at risk repot, it is similar. they are focusing on Pakistan, because nuke capability is unacceptable by Israel and India, and there is every possibility that Pakistan becomes a target. "
49 minutes - future possibilities
"No one is so stupid. we've been through the game. far leftist parties in India are very strong. India is slowly turning the world to its own problems. they signed India, feel good Indian, this is all make believe. propaganda. India is in a miserable state. economy is dwindling, 400 million living on less than $1 a day. this is beginning to have an effect because 108,000 farmers committed suffice, and this is not born out of 608 districts of India, 231 in turmoil, mostly under control of dictators. "
--End statements.
"Thank you sir. Oh, I don't have a website, unfortunately, but I think you have a website, they can read my (statements there)" INFOWARS.COM!!!
YEAAAHH!!!<<---I added the yeah.
Friday, November 7, 2008
Obama Exposes Elite Secret Psuedo-Religious Cults
In an article exposed on CNN.com, Obama is quoted as saying "I didn't want to get into a Nancy Reagan thing... doing any seances."
Many societal elites in America and Europe have been known to follow many strange, often anti-Christian, but usually ridiculous religious practices. It could be said that some of these practices, ideologies, have to be exposed to the public before the elites act on the "messages" they recieve (I.e Bush and his talks with God), but some are generally wacky or even frightening, (i.e. Tony Blairs writhing on the floor in prayer on top of a pentagram in a dark, candlelit room).
There are strong undercurrents that the new "global" religion that will sweep the world will be under the guise of Environmentalism, Mother Earth, Gaia worship, but the real scary thing is this global "carbon tax" that will be what the Enviro-preachers will be bringing their collection baskets to your pockets for.
Enough of my ramblings, here's the article:
Obama apologizes to Nancy Reagan for seance remark
CHICAGO, Illinois (CNN) -- President-elect Barack Obama called Nancy Reagan on Friday to apologize for a remark about seances he made during his first news conference earlier in the day.
When a reporter asked Obama if he had spoken with any ex-presidents since his election on Tuesday, he responded that he had spoken to all former presidents "that are living."
"I didn't want to get into a Nancy Reagan thing about, you know, doing any seances," he said.
Nancy Reagan, wife of 40th President Ronald Reagan, was derided in 1988 when his former chief of staff Donald Regan revealed in a book that the first lady had consulted an astrologer to determine the president's schedule.
Obama apologized to Reagan "for the careless and offhanded remark," Obama transition team spokeswoman Stephanie Cutter said.
"The president-elect expressed his admiration and affection for Mrs. Reagan that so many Americans share and they had a warm conversation," Cutter said.
President Reagan died in 2004 at 93.
Other first ladies have reportedly used spiritual advisers.
In his 1996 book, "The Choice," Washington Post editor and writer Bob Woodward said that as first lady, Sen. Hillary Clinton had seance-like sessions at the White House during which she conversed with late first lady Eleanor Roosevelt. At the time, the White House said the sessions were not seances.
Abraham Lincoln's wife, Mary Todd Lincoln, was rumored to have held seances at the White House in order to contact her two dead sons, Eddie and Willie. She also reportedly went to seances under an assumed name after the president's death to attempt to contact him.
Immediately after the seance remark, Obama said he had "re-read some of Lincoln's writings, who's always an extraordinary inspiration" and mentioned that former Presidents Jimmy Carter and George H.W. Bush and current President George W. Bush "have all been very gracious and offered to provide any help that they can in this transition process."
Many societal elites in America and Europe have been known to follow many strange, often anti-Christian, but usually ridiculous religious practices. It could be said that some of these practices, ideologies, have to be exposed to the public before the elites act on the "messages" they recieve (I.e Bush and his talks with God), but some are generally wacky or even frightening, (i.e. Tony Blairs writhing on the floor in prayer on top of a pentagram in a dark, candlelit room).
There are strong undercurrents that the new "global" religion that will sweep the world will be under the guise of Environmentalism, Mother Earth, Gaia worship, but the real scary thing is this global "carbon tax" that will be what the Enviro-preachers will be bringing their collection baskets to your pockets for.
Enough of my ramblings, here's the article:
Obama apologizes to Nancy Reagan for seance remark
CHICAGO, Illinois (CNN) -- President-elect Barack Obama called Nancy Reagan on Friday to apologize for a remark about seances he made during his first news conference earlier in the day.
When a reporter asked Obama if he had spoken with any ex-presidents since his election on Tuesday, he responded that he had spoken to all former presidents "that are living."
"I didn't want to get into a Nancy Reagan thing about, you know, doing any seances," he said.
Nancy Reagan, wife of 40th President Ronald Reagan, was derided in 1988 when his former chief of staff Donald Regan revealed in a book that the first lady had consulted an astrologer to determine the president's schedule.
Obama apologized to Reagan "for the careless and offhanded remark," Obama transition team spokeswoman Stephanie Cutter said.
"The president-elect expressed his admiration and affection for Mrs. Reagan that so many Americans share and they had a warm conversation," Cutter said.
President Reagan died in 2004 at 93.
Other first ladies have reportedly used spiritual advisers.
In his 1996 book, "The Choice," Washington Post editor and writer Bob Woodward said that as first lady, Sen. Hillary Clinton had seance-like sessions at the White House during which she conversed with late first lady Eleanor Roosevelt. At the time, the White House said the sessions were not seances.
Abraham Lincoln's wife, Mary Todd Lincoln, was rumored to have held seances at the White House in order to contact her two dead sons, Eddie and Willie. She also reportedly went to seances under an assumed name after the president's death to attempt to contact him.
Immediately after the seance remark, Obama said he had "re-read some of Lincoln's writings, who's always an extraordinary inspiration" and mentioned that former Presidents Jimmy Carter and George H.W. Bush and current President George W. Bush "have all been very gracious and offered to provide any help that they can in this transition process."
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